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Chamath Palihapitiya

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

The billion is not going in, the billions not going in the licensing deal, all of that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

And then in addition, they're supposedly at open AI, a newfound focus on chasing anthropic down the enterprise path.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So getting off their game, getting a little discombobulated, perhaps, or maybe getting focused on what matters, which is

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

enterprise, apparently in terms of revenue opening, I also offered private equity investors a guaranteed minimum return of 17.5% as part of a joint venture that would help PE firms deploy AI

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

and ease the high upfront cost of that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So lots of questions here, Chamath, I don't know if you've tracked this PE model, but obviously, a lot of people are doing roll ups in services, accounting, legal, Josh Kushner's got a big effort here, a bunch of private equity firms, trying to essentially, I guess, and run

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

the transition process and arguably what you're doing with the software factory at 8090.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So your thoughts on open AI and this pivot and this private equity?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Freeberg, let me pull you into this because my base case here is that all consumer queries are going to be free.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Apple is going to make them free, they're already free for Google, I think Matt is going to make them free and actually have a decent product soon.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

And Microsoft same thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

chat GPT has decided to push off advertising, they were going to put advertising in it, you remember, they got mocked by anthropic with their Super Bowl ads.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So what do you think is going to happen on the consumer side, consumers generally don't pay for services, that's usually five to 20% of the market is paid services, and everything else is free and ad supported.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

But it looks like Apple and Google are going to just let it rip.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So that could take the revenue oxygen away from chat GPT.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So what is your thought here on who wins consumer?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Probably less on average because it's global number, but yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Sachs, the numbers

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Right now would be more in my estimation, about 50 million people subscribe to ChatGPT.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

They got a billion users or they're trended to a billion.