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Chamath Palihapitiya

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

What you're probably leaving out here, which you're definitely leaving out here, is when these companies know they're doing something damaging and they do it anyway, that was the key to the RJR Nabisco case.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

I'll put those two aside, because I don't think we've seen major cases about that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

But I will say the auto industry knew for a long time about seatbelts, you remember that, and they didn't deploy them RJR Nabisco, they knew that these were addictive, and they designed the cigarettes to become more addictive.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

And they didn't tell people about the health risks, asbestos, same thing, lead paint, same thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

This has happened over and over again, where corporations

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

subvert the release of information to make additional profits.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So the question here with Facebook is, did they know how addicted these were?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Did they know kids were being assaulted sexually and they could have done something about it or didn't they?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

And so agree that there's too much litigation.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

And if we don't want people to make noise, then we shouldn't put it out there.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

But if you as a corporation know it's dangerous, and then you lean into that, if you know, as is the case with Facebook, that this is super addicting, super damaging to young girls, and then you lean into making it more addictive, and you don't put safeguards in place, and you can prove that, like RJR,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

like asbestos, like many of these other compounds.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Second, after age, which is what we're really talking about with kids, and Jonathan Haidt would agree that they shouldn't be using this until they're 16, so I think that's a perfect analogy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

age gating, and then labeling.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

And then if they know of something that's really damaging, releasing that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So there was a whole thing about alcohol in pregnancy, and they covered up in the alcohol industry or didn't disclose exactly how damaging it was to drink alcohol on a fetus or a developing fetus.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

And then remember all those signs went up in bars in the 70s and 80s?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

That was directly because of that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So labeling, information, and age gating would be the logical things to do for social media.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

And that's what's happened the past.