Chamath Palihapitiya

Are you making money on the $400 a month, $5,000 a year one?

Or at this point in time, are people going so crazy?

A lot of rumors, Apple, other people were like, hey, this is a great team.

How many people on the team now?

Yeah.

You've got a very coveted team.

You obviously understand consumer.

You obviously understand business.

It's a product-driven organization.

Reports are you declined.

But the world's getting hyper-competitive here.

How do you keep up as a 400-person organization when you got Sam Altman over here raising $100 billion?

And then you have Elon putting data centers in space and merging with SpaceX and Twitter.

You have Google with unlimited resources, Amazon getting in the game, and obviously Gemini, a very strong product, and Google...

really good at consumer.

I think we'd all agree Facebook and Meta haven't figured it out yet, except maybe for serving us better ads, but they haven't figured out the consumer case yet, but they'll copy it.

They always do.

How do you look at the playing field?

Because the degree of difficulty, this isn't playing checkers or this is like playing against the 10 best

chess players in the world.