Chamath Palihapitiya

Yes.

That is the gateway drug to all these things.

Yep.

Talk about your problems.

You know, when these people go to therapy, you ever hear these people, Howard Stern's like, I've been in therapy with the same person two or three days a week for 40 years.

I'm like...

Okay, what's the incentive for the therapist to stop charging you $1,200 an hour, there is none, then they lose a revenue stream, they lose a customer.

It's all a giant fucking fraud.

Sachs, in terms of this case, I wouldn't go that far.

I do think that there's a lot of value in kind of untying some of these Gordian knots that people have because of how they grew up.

But there's a difference between that and being specific and just randomly ruminating because I don't think there's a lot of productive you've got an acute

issue like in trauma in your life?

Yeah, sure.

Unpack it, figure it out.

I'm just talking about this never ending self-improvement, you know, ruminating thing.

But getting back on topic here, Saks, what's the, and we're talking about a jury, I believe in Oakland.

No, but it's a bench trial.

This is important.

It's a bench trial where the jury is advisory in capacity, but ultimately that judge, she will make the final call.

and she'll do the damages.