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Chamath Palihapitiya

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

But they are giving up on free cash flow, stock buybacks, and dividends, and the focus on those three to invest in infrastructure.

2583.554 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Amazon's free cash flow down 97%, Google, Microsoft, and Meta down 12%, 12%, and 8%, respectively.

2593.01 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Your thoughts on this free cash flow, the end of the free cash flow deluge, and the massive, massive investment we're seeing in CapEx.

2600.519 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

I think we're seeing a very important structural shift in the capital markets.

2610.841 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

But by and large, it was a very asset light investment cycle.

2644.175 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Now, all of a sudden, the pendulum is swinging violently in the other direction.

2647.924 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

I'll give you an example.

2669.038 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

You know, when Microsoft convinced the owners of Three Mile Island to turn their nuclear site back on, do you know what their Ford purchase agreement was?

2670.64 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

The problem is that's not for an enormous percentage of their overall energy needs.

2686.616 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So if you play that out, and you think these five or six companies all of a sudden are not just spending Jason 700 billion a year of capex, which they are, but then from an operating cash flow, they're going to be spending two x the prevailing spot rate because they just want guaranteed demand into the future.

2693.517 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

to the shareholder, and it's not going to stay on the balance sheet.

2720.551 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

These companies will now get levered, they're going to get highly sophisticated around the financial engineering, they'll have more debt, they'll have all kinds of different vehicles and term loans and revolvers and all of this stuff.

2724.316 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And so they're going to look like this big bulky industrial business in five years.

2738.075 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And I'm not sure that there's a good valuation case to be made at that point.

2742.561 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And so I think it may be simpler, and this is what I tweeted, to just follow the dollars, like a trillion dollars a year going out of the hyperscalers.

2747.753 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Where is it going?

2757.856 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Just follow those dollars and buy those companies because those companies are already underpriced.

2758.657 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

This is obviously reminiscent of something we all experienced.

2763.127 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Nick, can you pull up the Cisco chart I just sent you and put it at max?

2767.231 View full episode β†’
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

We had a massive build out of the infrastructure of the internet in the late 1990s and into 2000.

2771.094 View full episode β†’