Chamath Palihapitiya

Two things.

The reason that this is even possible is because humans are error prone.

And when humans code, they create holes.

And so humans exploiting humans is where we've been for a long time.

Now we have computers exploiting humans because the computers go and seek out all these bugs that humans wrote.

In the next phase, it'll be machines versus machines.

And so I think the nature of cyber is gonna completely change.

Probably in the next five or six years, there'll be so much reason to rewrite all of the software that runs the world

In one part, because you're going to be asked to show more operating leverage and revenue growth.

But in another part, because everything else that was handmade in the past is just fundamentally insecure.

Either way, all roads will lead to all the operational software that runs the world will get rewritten.

more and more of it will be written by machines, more and more of it will be impregnable as a result.

But then the cyber threat actually will only increase.

Because then you're going to try to figure out how to use a machine to inject something into another machine, so that some agentic loop injects a malware or injects a bad token.

What I will tell you is, I'm not even sure if I'm allowed to say this, but

very good, probably the best cybersecurity company in the world, run by one of the very best CEOs in the world.

who may or may not be speaking at liquidity, would tell you that they have penetrated and can essentially manipulate every model.

Let me just say it roughly that way.

Okay, perfect.

Yeah, and at the breakthrough prize, which three of the four of us were at, I talked to George Kurtz, the other person you were kind of describing was not that person.