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Chamath Palihapitiya

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Got it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And Jason, the other factor that complicates that for anthropic and open AI is all the stuff that's sort of sitting around thumb twiddling, 40% of that is going to get canceled because they've done such a poor job of creating a good positive halo around AI that 40% of all the announced projects get canceled because 40% of all projects in the last four years have been canceled.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Yeah, and there are some bad feelings about data centers, AI, jobs, etc., and that's causing some headwind.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

People are literally doing violent things in society and blaming data centers and AI for it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

I don't want to give it too much airtime.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Freeberg, what's your take on the chessboard we're looking at here today?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

either through compute, energy, or through going public on a business level, you know, the strategic nature of capital, compute, and energy now playing a role in this massive amount of demand.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

It's still a ball in the air kind of game.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

BCG had this theory, I think I talked about this once before, called the rule of three.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

where they've shown time and again that any stable, mature competitive market evolves to a four to two to one ratio of market share for basically 90% of the market.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So there's a market leader that has four times the market share of the second place, that's two times the market share of the third place.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

This is the case in pretty much every mature kind of competitive market.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So you can kind of think about AI probably evolving into a consumer market and an enterprise market.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

OpenAI, even if they're not at a billion, they're still at 900 million weekly users, which is well ahead of whatever Claude is at.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

I think Claude is like probably sub 100 million sacks, you may know.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And then Gemini is probably closer to them at 700 to a billion, somewhere in that range, probably pretty neck and neck with OpenAI.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So, you know, the consumer market looks like it's trending towards a chat GPT slash Google fight for first place and second place, and then probably anthropic in third place.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And maybe Elon emerges and takes off enabled by his compute capacity.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And then the enterprise market is a little bit of a different story.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And that's its own market, which is kind of anthropic.