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Chamath Palihapitiya

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

There's a certain set of things

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

that make up the bulk of consumer energy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And there's probably a certain set of things that probably make up the bulk of coding output as well.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And so if you can get that 80% of searches or chat interfaces, or coding requests, reduced down through pruning techniques to smaller models, and then you have a whole set of smaller models that can be called dynamically, and you reduce inference costs by 90%.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

you can make much more use, call it 10 times the use on data center and energy capacity than we can today.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So I would argue that we're still in the very early days of getting efficiency in terms of output and tokens.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And we're just in the very kind of early stage of that, which also unlocks the opportunity for guys like Elon to reinvent how this is done and potentially compete pretty aggressively.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

There are two ways to win.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

You could throw compute at it, or you can do SLMs, small language models, and VSLMs, verticalized small language models.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So if you had a verticalized small language model for the weather, let's say, that doesn't exist, but you can use it as an example.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

They will have one for travel as an example.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

When you hit Google for flight information, it's obviously going to route you to something lighter and faster that uses Google Flights, and Google Flights has been incredibly

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

incorporated into Gemini.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Gemini now is right behind 700, 750 million users.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And it's exactly what we discussed, I don't know, 18 months ago on this podcast, Freeberg, that what if they put it at the top?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

And what would that do to their search revenue?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

Search revenue is surging, and they're also surging.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

So they figured out a way to balance those two competing forces, having search results that are AI-enabled,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

and still getting people to click on links.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
OpenAI Misses Targets, Codex vs Claude, Elon vs Sam Trial, Big Hyperscaler Beats, Peptide Craze

They've done it brilliantly, apparently.