Changpeng Zhao

At the time, first, I spoke to a bunch of guys.

We tried to do a few different businesses.

Basically, let's do this and that.

I talked to a couple of friends in Taiwan who used to work for TSMC, the Taiwan semiconductor manufacturer.

Basically, all the NVIDIA chips, all the AI chips, 80% of the world's chips are manufactured there.

We wanted to do a Bitcoin mining chip or a mining machine, but that didn't materialize.

It involves a lot of logistics, which are not my specialty.

How close did you guys get to executing that?

Not very close.

We discussed business concepts.

We had maybe even a business plan, but we didn't pull the trigger.

I did a couple of Bitcoin ATM machines.

I actually sold a couple.

But that also didn't grow.

And then I said, okay, well, instead of trying to do a startup, let me try to work for a company first.

And I bumped into a few guys at Blockchain Info, and then I joined them for a few months.

Big company, small company, startup?

Very small company.

I joined as a third person there.

And were they players?