Charlene Von Sayer

And I just became really angry.

I think they were, again, part of the upper class, and I truly believe that they didn't think the war would really affect them.

They would not be taken to a concentration camp.

Simon Goodman wrote a great book called The Orpheus Clock, and it was quite evident in that book that a lot of the upper class Jews were even socializing,

before the war with people that ended up being Nazis, but it was just not even recognized.

So I think they kept waiting and waiting because they really didn't think anything was going to happen.

I can't say exactly when, but I have some translations of Daisy's diary.

And she talks about how the atmosphere is changing and she is feeling unsafe.

But Jacques doesn't want to leave, doesn't want to leave everything that he's built with his business and his life there.

But I guess at a certain point, they had no choice.

They took my grandfather's car.

I think it was like a Lincoln Zephyr or something like that.

They had to leave it on the side of the road.

There was too much traffic.

And they ultimately made it on the last ship out.

There was a lot, a lot of beautiful things that were left behind.

I mean, my grandmother packed like a little beach bag and threw some jewelry in there and some diapers for my father and they left.

Hermann Goering had sort of scouted out all of the top art collections, I think, prior to the war.

So he knew exactly where his first stops would be.

So Hermann Goering and Alois Mietel basically took over