Charlene Von Sayer

Yeah, life was amazing a few weeks earlier.

She continues on.

She lands in Canada and spends some time there before making her way to New York.

And that's that's where they stayed for quite a while.

The Allies returned a lot of the art that they found in Germany and other places to the country of origin, and those countries, Holland in our case, was supposed to return everything to the rightful owners, and they did not do that.

I believe they felt that the transaction was voluntary.

and not involuntary.

And they, I think, were more interested in their post-war collections and kept things for themselves.

I mean, my grandmother was a young, single, at this point, Jewish woman.

I think they just didn't think that she would fight.

Exactly.

She tried very hard until 1952, and she signed an agreement, but in the agreement she specifically states that she does not agree with how things were handled and that she does not give up her rights to the Goering portion of the collection.

Yes, the larger and more valuable portion of the collection.

She ran out of money.

She couldn't.

She was wealthy before the war, but not after, and she ran out of money.

She couldn't spend all of her money trying to get her possessions back.

I think that I really learned what a tough cookie she was, like what a strong, independent woman she was and how sad she must have been.

I know she was depressed a lot.

I know that from my dad.