Charles Bethea

And James's problem's not solved by this, obviously, but he's shared it.

And others have seen him share his pain.

They've acknowledged it.

Some of them have confessed.

And it was frankly a moving thing to witness.

And so I was kind of open from that point on to this whole project being a little bit more complicated and maybe beneficial than I had suspected.

Yeah, so this program, Squire, in what you just read and elsewhere, it takes a much more politicized stance.

The founder, Bedros Kulian, is this Armenian immigrant now in his 50s who kind of describes having lived the American dream.

He'd grown up poor in a communist country.

He'd had a father who was a physical disciplinarian but was very broke-minded was how Bedros put it to me.

And Bedros had made millions of dollars through this Fit Body Boot Camp franchise, written a book called Man Up.

And he had all these followers on X and elsewhere, millions.

And he's certainly no Andrew Tate.

He's a warmer guy.

He calls himself a Papa Bear.

But he does traffic and some toxic stuff.

And so I show up early one morning just north of L.A.

in Chino Hills.

And...

I see about a dozen fathers and sons inside Cullian's gym, and they're kind of stretching.