Charles Liu

But nevertheless, he's a very creative guy.

He did all kinds of stuff about tessellations, mathematics, and things like that as well.

He gave this particular hypothesis about how we store information.

The bottom line is, in my opinion, and I use that term a lot because I like putting things down to the bottom, we haven't yet defined consciousness.

Philosophers

Will, and I know you love philosophers, Neil.

I mean, you embrace them and you think that they're awesome.

So I'll quote philosophers as much as I can here, that everything is conscious.

It's just the different levels of consciousness that matter, right?

Gary, let me ask you, when you played soccer, did you sometimes feel like the ball had a mind of its own?

Nice.

Right.

So philosophers of consciousness sometimes do argue that the soccer ball does have its own consciousness, but it's at such a low level, right?

Such a level that we cannot understand that the, how hard it's kicked, whether the valve was affected or not, whether the wind is blowing, whether there's a spin, you know, things like that, that philosophy,

fully explains how it moves and that its own free will or its own consciousness has no effect.

Yeah.

That's a really great point.

If you have this kind of consciousness, if it even exists, right?

We humans, I don't know, what is something that we have that serves no purpose, and yet we have it, and therefore it is part of who we are?

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