Charli XCX

And I wouldn't say that that just comes from

my heritage it's like that I think for me uh comes from feeling I felt like I was a loser you know like I so like it was like coming which and I feel like so many artists have that experience of like they're they're just they've just feel so isolated and alone and uncool and all you know all the the things or whatever I don't know and I definitely felt that way and

and still do.

And I think it's actually why I used the word nervous at the top of

this is because often when i meet people i'm at a party and it's night time and there are so many additional things that can help me feel relaxed you know what i mean um and we're talking about hot chocolate yes yeah and i'm not drinking hot chocolate right now you know what i mean so it's like oh then you should try hard drugs right yeah yeah yeah

I don't.

Everyone thinks I do, but I just, I don't.

But yeah, so it's like in the cold light of day, sometimes I do get a little bit nervous.

And I kind of revert back to that younger girl who I think...

sometimes would feel really out of her comfort zone when meeting people and feeling like, you know, you have to sort of like establish that you're like a functioning human with a brain and things like that.

And sometimes it's like, ah, so yeah.

Of course.

Yeah.

Yeah, I agree.

And I think it's the sort of the kind of duality of both that makes a good artist.

I can't imagine if you were just like so like chill and confident and happy with yourself all the time.

You'd make terrible art.

I know.

That's why.

Probably.