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Charlie Kratovil

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
112 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

And

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

it's the type of development that it's the opposite of job creation, right?

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

Normally, we are in this sort of like environmentalist versus jobs dynamic.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

But these facilities have, you know, very few permanent jobs.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

And in fact, the artificial intelligence industry is famous for

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

replacing human workers with computer technology and putting people out of work.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

So those arguments don't carry water.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

I have gotten a little taste of how strong the opposition is, and I knew that it was something that we needed to tap into here in New Brunswick because...

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

At the end of the day, I wanted our city council to remember this moment next time a data center is proposed.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

And they'll just say no because they understand that the people don't want it, at least not here in our city.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

And, yeah, I think, you know, Food and Water Watch is right to support a moratorium on this stuff because otherwise we're going to be making decisions that we're going to be locked into and we're going to come to regret.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

Yeah, I mean, in New Brunswick, we have a lot of development and redevelopment going on, so I know there's a lot of frustration over it.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

But it's often, you know, some people love it and some people don't love it.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

In this case, this is a piece of land that had been completely vacant for years.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

The developer kicked out small businesses to, you know, supposedly had big plans and never delivered on them.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

So I knew the local people were not going to support a plan that was going to โ€“

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

basically change what was supposed to be a park to a big data center.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

I also knew that more broadly, people are very frustrated with artificial intelligence and the impact it's having, how we're seeing so much misinformation and slop in our feeds that we didn't see just a few years ago, and how it's ultimately a big moneymaker for the extremely wealthy,

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

And virtually nothing is trickling down to regular folks.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/23/26: Mexico Cartel Violence Explodes, Big Tech Freaks Over Data Center Backlash

So different people have different reasons for opposing it.