Charlie Songhurst

To whom would be this sort of counter question?

I think to sort of the average person, probably 350 of them.

Obviously, they're not bullying to the founder.

And they're never bullying to me.

I find things like accounting software deeply interesting because it's an intellectual puzzle.

You're solving someone's problem.

And I also think the utilitarian output to the world is way underestimated of these things.

If you were to think, what was the precursor technology to Manhattan?

Sewers.

Very hard to have Manhattan without sewers.

But they don't sound exciting, right?

If you were to suddenly remove them, human living standards would drop exponentially.

And so those base technologies that sort of double entry accounting in the sort of 14th century under the Medicis or whoever, those things really matter as sort of system-wide improvements to the thing.

And sometimes the joy of those can be missed.

I think there's this thing where if you think about the investment career, most people join a place where they fit.

And so they join an organization that gets them.

So you do have this sort of birds of a feather flock together.

So you tend to find that you get a set of people that either like the gritty and the real and the physical and the tangible.

Look at, say, the overlap between stock investors looking at things like mining companies and shipping companies.

And then you get people that like the abstract aspects