Charlie Warzel

And that has grown and grown and grown year over year over year.

And what you see now in the second Trump administration

are a lot of these people, or people who are fluent in the language of those places, now occupy positions in government.

The person who is controlling the Department of Homeland Security's account on X, or the White House's account on X, the person who's doing the day-to-day posting, is posting in a way that is indistinguishable from how someone was posting on 4chan in 2014.

And I'm not like actually genuinely indistinguishable.

It is trolling.

It is dog whistling to white nationalists and other bigots.

It is trying to make one's political enemies feel absolutely terrible.

But also there is this feeling that there are no rules anymore.

There are no adults in the room and we are in charge.

You know, there's a way in which

if you say he doesn't, right, and then he pals around with Nick Fuentes, there's a way in which that sounds like that's excusing him, right, or saying he doesn't have any agency.

I think it's really important to say

These guys are making choices.

They have full agency.

They should be taking full responsibility for the fact that, like, Cliff Giller says the N-word a lot on stream.

Like, he is doing things that are racist, that are bigoted.

He's palling around with people who are racist and bigoted.

But as far as his actual ideology...

I think it's, politically, I think it's completely incoherent.