Charlie Warzel

Right.

Like I am reporting from a place and in the sense of the manosphere or whatever we're calling where clavicular hangs out all the time.

That's kind of a dark place.

That's a that's a place where there is, I think, this like this nihilistic crisis that is that is happening.

I don't think that's that's everything.

Right.

I mean, if you look at what's happened

in the Twin Cities in the last month or so, and the way that the citizens of that city have responded to what's been going on and banding together and sort of the neighborliness and solidarity, it is the exact opposite of this, right?

It is the exact opposite of, like, lol, nothing matters.

It is...

No, we are like we are, you know, all cohabitating, you know, in this place together.

And we're going to look out for one another and we're going to build these networks of resiliency.

It's showing up.

It's going to the local community center and sorting groceries and then delivering them to people.

Right.

It's like it requires that physical effort in the real world.

And so.

I really think that people can fall into these spaces, but there is actually this very rich world around us that sort of has the – the more you spend time in it and are present in it, it actually has the exact opposite effect.

of what all of these streamers are messaging, what all of this online community is messaging.

That's trying to keep you further isolated and alienated.