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Charlie Warzel

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The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And I think that that's really like is must feel pretty nice for someone like Zuckerberg to just be like, okay, all I got to do is sell my soul, have Joel go on Fox once a week, talk about, you know, Trump being a crusader for free speech. And, um, finally, I can just get some people who are just going to be like, hey, he's a good guy. Yeah. Oh, he's nice. He does. He does a good job.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

I think that the changes could be small, right? And it could be sort of on the margin stuff that is going to sound really good to people like Donald Trump, and you're not going to see that much of a difference, right? That's totally possible. It's also possible that this is a classic maneuver by Facebook to push so far in a direction. They historically,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

I think that the changes could be small, right? And it could be sort of on the margin stuff that is going to sound really good to people like Donald Trump, and you're not going to see that much of a difference, right? That's totally possible. It's also possible that this is a classic maneuver by Facebook to push so far in a direction. They historically,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

I think that the changes could be small, right? And it could be sort of on the margin stuff that is going to sound really good to people like Donald Trump, and you're not going to see that much of a difference, right? That's totally possible. It's also possible that this is a classic maneuver by Facebook to push so far in a direction. They historically,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

don't seem to think through the externalities of what they're doing, right? Like for me, the idea of, you know, deranking some of this quality news, you know, whatever stuff, that's a big one. But for me, the biggest one was this focus on groups and communities, right? And just throwing people together based on some of these shared interests.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

don't seem to think through the externalities of what they're doing, right? Like for me, the idea of, you know, deranking some of this quality news, you know, whatever stuff, that's a big one. But for me, the biggest one was this focus on groups and communities, right? And just throwing people together based on some of these shared interests.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

don't seem to think through the externalities of what they're doing, right? Like for me, the idea of, you know, deranking some of this quality news, you know, whatever stuff, that's a big one. But for me, the biggest one was this focus on groups and communities, right? And just throwing people together based on some of these shared interests.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And, you know, every time that Facebook chooses to prioritize something,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And, you know, every time that Facebook chooses to prioritize something,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And, you know, every time that Facebook chooses to prioritize something,

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

really heavily its algorithms are pushing people in this way that they don't really notice right they don't really totally understand it's all of a sudden unintended consequences this is my classical oak shoddy and small c conservatism coming out you know you make a big change like this you don't exactly know what's going to come out the back end and and i think you know you saw the sort of logical endpoint of all of that right was like

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

really heavily its algorithms are pushing people in this way that they don't really notice right they don't really totally understand it's all of a sudden unintended consequences this is my classical oak shoddy and small c conservatism coming out you know you make a big change like this you don't exactly know what's going to come out the back end and and i think you know you saw the sort of logical endpoint of all of that right was like

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

really heavily its algorithms are pushing people in this way that they don't really notice right they don't really totally understand it's all of a sudden unintended consequences this is my classical oak shoddy and small c conservatism coming out you know you make a big change like this you don't exactly know what's going to come out the back end and and i think you know you saw the sort of logical endpoint of all of that right was like

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

Facebook's architecture was perfectly suited in 2020, late 2020, November, December 2020, to allow tens of thousands of people to gather around the Stop the Steal movement. Like if you remember on November, whatever, 6th or something, 2020, like I was watching the stop the steal Facebook group. Somebody like in early in the morning was like, Hey, you should check this out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

Facebook's architecture was perfectly suited in 2020, late 2020, November, December 2020, to allow tens of thousands of people to gather around the Stop the Steal movement. Like if you remember on November, whatever, 6th or something, 2020, like I was watching the stop the steal Facebook group. Somebody like in early in the morning was like, Hey, you should check this out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

Facebook's architecture was perfectly suited in 2020, late 2020, November, December 2020, to allow tens of thousands of people to gather around the Stop the Steal movement. Like if you remember on November, whatever, 6th or something, 2020, like I was watching the stop the steal Facebook group. Somebody like in early in the morning was like, Hey, you should check this out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

This like election denying group has like 15,000 members. And then I went by the time I looked at it, six minutes later, it had 50,000 members. And it's like, that shit doesn't happen. If you don't make a series of changes from 2018 all the way through to try to get, you know, uncle Jim and aunt Sally into knitting groups and, you know, rotary club meetings and whatever it's, Oops.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

This like election denying group has like 15,000 members. And then I went by the time I looked at it, six minutes later, it had 50,000 members. And it's like, that shit doesn't happen. If you don't make a series of changes from 2018 all the way through to try to get, you know, uncle Jim and aunt Sally into knitting groups and, you know, rotary club meetings and whatever it's, Oops.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

This like election denying group has like 15,000 members. And then I went by the time I looked at it, six minutes later, it had 50,000 members. And it's like, that shit doesn't happen. If you don't make a series of changes from 2018 all the way through to try to get, you know, uncle Jim and aunt Sally into knitting groups and, you know, rotary club meetings and whatever it's, Oops.

The Bulwark Podcast
Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

And so it's just like, I think that they make these... We met book clubs. We met book clubs, not insurrection. And so it's like this kind of stuff has the potential for these really large kind of gnarly changes because there are billions of people on this platform. And like if there's one thing covering Facebook for as long as I have or meta or whatever we're calling it,