Charlie White

When you talk about it, but look, it's a fully independent podcast.

There's no agendas here.

Like you just call it how you see it.

Like Luke Keery just calls it how he sees it.

For what, yeah.

To trace click spaces.

That's why people would do stuff like that.

You know, you say the changing perception of podcasts.

I actually found out today I did a podcast with Danny Weidler.

And the reason Michael Chambers sent podcasters was...

was because he is aware that players listen to podcasts.

They don't engage with the mainstream media as much.

They listen to podcasts.

That's their – so his play to get the social media side of things was because he was going after the – he knew that that's what players would see.

Okay.

Which is then – because Danny compared it today to what happened with the Perth Bears flying over Dean Ritchie and like there's different strategies and what's working and what's not.

I haven't bought a paper in a long time.

I read articles online, of course, and stuff like that, but most people just consume it through social media these days, don't they?

Yeah, I guess they do.

Some of these players are going to be 20 years old, 19 years old.