Charlize Theron

Right.

You know, when you're dealing with a charming drunk, like who could be very charming and was always looking for buddies to kind of like come join the party.

And also a culture that just accepted it.

Like it was a culture that that was part of being South African.

Like men drink alcohol.

I remember my little tiny nephew saying like when people are like, what are you going to do when you grow up?

I'm going to drink.

I think that was part of the culture.

That's when you become a man.

That doesn't help either.

I just want to say, I wasn't going to start here, but because I asked you before the interview if it was okay to talk about it, I guess that's where we've ended up.

Yeah, and to be clear, I think these things should be talked about, you know, because it makes other people not feel alone, you know, and I feel like I never knew about a story like that.

You know, when this happened to us, I thought we were the only people, my mom and I, that this was going on with.

And now the two of us look at it.

I've had therapy around this.

She's had, she's also just, she's a tough broad.

So part of her is just like, it's part of my life.

It's not who I am.

I'm way more interesting than this.

And, oh, is she more interesting than that?