Chase Hughes

And the more I could kind of see somebody's insecurities and when somebody was stressed and the little fears that are hiding behind behaviors, like it made them human to me. So I think I had some social anxiety and me being able to kind of see behind that mask. I wasn't judging anybody, but it was like, wow, they're they're messed up, too. So I kind of got addicted to that.

And the more I could kind of see somebody's insecurities and when somebody was stressed and the little fears that are hiding behind behaviors, like it made them human to me. So I think I had some social anxiety and me being able to kind of see behind that mask. I wasn't judging anybody, but it was like, wow, they're they're messed up, too. So I kind of got addicted to that.

And the more I could kind of see somebody's insecurities and when somebody was stressed and the little fears that are hiding behind behaviors, like it made them human to me. So I think I had some social anxiety and me being able to kind of see behind that mask. I wasn't judging anybody, but it was like, wow, they're they're messed up, too. So I kind of got addicted to that.

And I just rode this line down this behavior path. And I got obsessed with studying all this behavior. And a friend of mine was killed on USS Cole during the terrorist attack in 2001. September 11th, Cole got attacked in the Gulf of Yemen. And I was like reading these intelligence reports afterward that said – There's failures on the ground. We didn't develop assets in the country.

And I just rode this line down this behavior path. And I got obsessed with studying all this behavior. And a friend of mine was killed on USS Cole during the terrorist attack in 2001. September 11th, Cole got attacked in the Gulf of Yemen. And I was like reading these intelligence reports afterward that said – There's failures on the ground. We didn't develop assets in the country.

And I just rode this line down this behavior path. And I got obsessed with studying all this behavior. And a friend of mine was killed on USS Cole during the terrorist attack in 2001. September 11th, Cole got attacked in the Gulf of Yemen. And I was like reading these intelligence reports afterward that said – There's failures on the ground. We didn't develop assets in the country.

We didn't take the actions that we needed to take to get this intelligence. And I was like, man, they need this behavior stuff. So I got more and more obsessed with it. And I started training people in the government probably around the age of 30 or so. And that was like just a few years before I retired at 38. And the novelty still hasn't worn off for me.

We didn't take the actions that we needed to take to get this intelligence. And I was like, man, they need this behavior stuff. So I got more and more obsessed with it. And I started training people in the government probably around the age of 30 or so. And that was like just a few years before I retired at 38. And the novelty still hasn't worn off for me.

We didn't take the actions that we needed to take to get this intelligence. And I was like, man, they need this behavior stuff. So I got more and more obsessed with it. And I started training people in the government probably around the age of 30 or so. And that was like just a few years before I retired at 38. And the novelty still hasn't worn off for me.

I'm still obsessed with that field of study.

I'm still obsessed with that field of study.

I'm still obsessed with that field of study.

It was me. The first group of people I trained was a car dealership just to see if I could do it. I said I'm going to go in there and do it for free. And then I started training people in the military. And these are U.S. Navy and other branches. And I'm training them in like these – I got obsessed with this interrogation stuff and –

It was me. The first group of people I trained was a car dealership just to see if I could do it. I said I'm going to go in there and do it for free. And then I started training people in the military. And these are U.S. Navy and other branches. And I'm training them in like these – I got obsessed with this interrogation stuff and –

It was me. The first group of people I trained was a car dealership just to see if I could do it. I said I'm going to go in there and do it for free. And then I started training people in the military. And these are U.S. Navy and other branches. And I'm training them in like these – I got obsessed with this interrogation stuff and –

how the brain works and and i got mostly got obsessed with if i'm an intelligence officer my job is to convince somebody to do something that's not in their best interest like i need to convince you to spy for your own country and give us intelligence or if i'm an interrogator i need to convince you to confess to a crime so i spent time hanging out with people that do cult recruiting out in california there's like official people

how the brain works and and i got mostly got obsessed with if i'm an intelligence officer my job is to convince somebody to do something that's not in their best interest like i need to convince you to spy for your own country and give us intelligence or if i'm an interrogator i need to convince you to confess to a crime so i spent time hanging out with people that do cult recruiting out in california there's like official people

how the brain works and and i got mostly got obsessed with if i'm an intelligence officer my job is to convince somebody to do something that's not in their best interest like i need to convince you to spy for your own country and give us intelligence or if i'm an interrogator i need to convince you to confess to a crime so i spent time hanging out with people that do cult recruiting out in california there's like official people

Like human resources for cult recruiting? Yeah. What do you mean? Do cults hire them? No, I think they join the cult and the cult says, oh, this guy's really charismatic. Or he was, I think half of these dudes were like ex-club promoters. That makes sense. They got that vibe, you know, like, I wish you'd come by tonight. Right.

Like human resources for cult recruiting? Yeah. What do you mean? Do cults hire them? No, I think they join the cult and the cult says, oh, this guy's really charismatic. Or he was, I think half of these dudes were like ex-club promoters. That makes sense. They got that vibe, you know, like, I wish you'd come by tonight. Right.