Chase Hughes

And I can send you all these documents if you're interested in it or if you want to just throw them in a link for the show.

And I can send you all these documents if you're interested in it or if you want to just throw them in a link for the show.

Yeah. Splitting. Personality splitting. So there's two versions of a person that can be kind of turned on or turned off. So he does it to army officers called this guy that he named Jones. And there was a Jones A and a Jones B. So he could send major Jones through enemy territory, but the other personality had all these national secrets. So if Jones A was ever captured, Jones B...

Yeah. Splitting. Personality splitting. So there's two versions of a person that can be kind of turned on or turned off. So he does it to army officers called this guy that he named Jones. And there was a Jones A and a Jones B. So he could send major Jones through enemy territory, but the other personality had all these national secrets. So if Jones A was ever captured, Jones B...

Won't ever come out because the code word and the little activation technique is not being done to bring out that B personality. Does that make sense? So that's a lot of the stuff that was going on. And a lot of MKUltra led into this new era of propaganda. And this guy comes onto the scene. His name is Edward Bernays. You're familiar? Okay. So he invents... propaganda in the United States.

Won't ever come out because the code word and the little activation technique is not being done to bring out that B personality. Does that make sense? So that's a lot of the stuff that was going on. And a lot of MKUltra led into this new era of propaganda. And this guy comes onto the scene. His name is Edward Bernays. You're familiar? Okay. So he invents... propaganda in the United States.

He's the reason that we eat, we think bacon is part of breakfast. He's the reason that margarine is yellow. He was the reason women smoked Virginia Slims in the 60s, 70s, 80s. There's a million things. He's the reason that the Department of War changed to the Department of Defense. So all of these tiny little things got made.

He's the reason that we eat, we think bacon is part of breakfast. He's the reason that margarine is yellow. He was the reason women smoked Virginia Slims in the 60s, 70s, 80s. There's a million things. He's the reason that the Department of War changed to the Department of Defense. So all of these tiny little things got made.

Yeah, big time. So he also invented the term public relations so propaganda didn't confuse people. Very interesting guy, probably a bad dude. He's also Sigmund Freud's nephew in a weird turn of events. And you don't really see that very often when you read about him. So it gets into this, it gets, it kind of evolves and the CIA is going crazy on this mind control stuff. Can we program assassins?

Yeah, big time. So he also invented the term public relations so propaganda didn't confuse people. Very interesting guy, probably a bad dude. He's also Sigmund Freud's nephew in a weird turn of events. And you don't really see that very often when you read about him. So it gets into this, it gets, it kind of evolves and the CIA is going crazy on this mind control stuff. Can we program assassins?

This is the end result of this. So I'll tell you what's on record now is they were doing experiments to see if a person could be programmed to kill on command with one of these alter ego identities. Edward Bernays.

This is the end result of this. So I'll tell you what's on record now is they were doing experiments to see if a person could be programmed to kill on command with one of these alter ego identities. Edward Bernays.

Yeah. No, he's not. This is CIA and George Estabrooks. And these are actually in official documents that were Freedom of Information Act released. So they're doing this huge experiment and they want to see, can I get a person to go into a room, pull out a loaded gun or one that they think is loaded during these experiments and just fire it at another person? So-

Yeah. No, he's not. This is CIA and George Estabrooks. And these are actually in official documents that were Freedom of Information Act released. So they're doing this huge experiment and they want to see, can I get a person to go into a room, pull out a loaded gun or one that they think is loaded during these experiments and just fire it at another person? So-

They start these experiments and they're successful. And this – they officially, quote, ended these experiments just a few years before Bobby Kennedy got killed in San Francisco by Sirhan Sirhan.

They start these experiments and they're successful. And this – they officially, quote, ended these experiments just a few years before Bobby Kennedy got killed in San Francisco by Sirhan Sirhan.

And Sirhan Sirhan has no memory of the event. He was – And if you look at where Bobby Kennedy was shot, he was shot under the armpit and kind of from behind. All the bullet holes are actually listed out there. This is from our own government's investigation. It just kind of doesn't really match up very well. But Sirhan has no memory of the event. To this day, he says he has no memory.

And Sirhan Sirhan has no memory of the event. He was – And if you look at where Bobby Kennedy was shot, he was shot under the armpit and kind of from behind. All the bullet holes are actually listed out there. This is from our own government's investigation. It just kind of doesn't really match up very well. But Sirhan has no memory of the event. To this day, he says he has no memory.

And if you talk, have you had Bobby on?

And if you talk, have you had Bobby on?