Chelsey Weber-Smith

fake wounds, crawling with maggots, kidnappings, violent claymation eye surgeries, spiders crawling in mouths and ears.

So this was really popular.

It was cartoons peeing into a urinal and then that pee goes into a faucet that's on the other side of the stall and then they pour it in a glass and drink it.

So that was like a really popular one.

So this is the kind of stuff we're talking about here that is far beyond the scope of anything that is appropriate for kids to see and yet they were seeing it all the time.

It was a toilet that opened its lid and it had vampire teeth and then it chased around like cool.

And it was usually the real life ones, which I didn't mention.

Some of them were like people in like Spider-Man and Elsa costumes.

And this was like they'd be like, oh, my God, the toilet.

And then the toilet would chase them around is like an animation.

Cool.

Yeah, it was.

Yeah.

Super cool.

Yeah.

I think you're right.

I think you're absolutely right.

And I will say that a lot of the Elsagate discourse when it was happening was like, are these people trying to groom children in this kind of grand conspiracy?

Which I don't personally think is true.

I think it really just comes down to money and attention, like we've already talked about.