Cheryl McCollum

And we felt it was really important.

To tell to answer that question for the audience, because for those who already knew the story, those are the biggest questions.

Yes, yes.

And when you hear it and you see this, it makes I mean, it's utterly understandable.

You know, the the the amount of.

I just can't imagine that you could ever stand up to that at that time under those circumstances.

And wanting to be, I thought it was so beautiful.

We often do not champion and celebrate stay-at-home moms.

And it's the single most important job there is, in my opinion.

And oftentimes, women, they don't get...

appreciated enough for that and this seems like a woman who that's really what she wanted to do she wanted to be a wife and a mother yes and it's such a pure beautiful desire and to have it so destroyed like I just it's devastating yeah it really is and that really is who she was and I think you know back then it was we were also sort of struggling with women's rights and you know women's um

And women standing up and saying, I can be a mother and a wife.

And but some people just want to do one or the other, you know, and it's no different than many, many, many career women who have deep careers, deciding that not having kids is, you know, right for them.

Right.

So I think it's a lot of in the hindsight looking at what was going on in the country then.

Right.

Right.

As well as this story.

Yes, as well as the specifics for them.

And that also makes me think about her addiction to the pain pills and the medications.