Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

That's lovely. No, I love that you're thinking about such things as being an honorable person. Yeah. Yeah, I think the whole idea of being in love is that you are not, in fact, sophisticated. I mean, there's a kind of lowering of your, just every imaginable barrier and guard that you have when love happens, I think. And Kwame... Okay. I mean, could we have some empathy for Kwame? I don't know.

That's lovely. No, I love that you're thinking about such things as being an honorable person. Yeah. Yeah, I think the whole idea of being in love is that you are not, in fact, sophisticated. I mean, there's a kind of lowering of your, just every imaginable barrier and guard that you have when love happens, I think. And Kwame... Okay. I mean, could we have some empathy for Kwame? I don't know.

I would love. No, I'm now intrigued.

I would love. No, I'm now intrigued.

No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what happened.

No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what happened.

Yes.

Yes.

I mean, I think, I think the question with Kwame would be why? I mean, what do you think happened? I just feel like something must have happened to him. Speaking of trauma and trauma response, maybe it was a kind of exaggerated trauma response. This is what I felt while reading the book as a man.

I mean, I think, I think the question with Kwame would be why? I mean, what do you think happened? I just feel like something must have happened to him. Speaking of trauma and trauma response, maybe it was a kind of exaggerated trauma response. This is what I felt while reading the book as a man.

Yeah. Yeah, completely. You don't agree? No, I'm just curious. So men tell love stories about how they were... Completely.

Yeah. Yeah, completely. You don't agree? No, I'm just curious. So men tell love stories about how they were... Completely.

Yes, Trevor, but I'm just worried that we're sort of going into the both sides territory. I think that there are some relationships where one person is an asshole.

Yes, Trevor, but I'm just worried that we're sort of going into the both sides territory. I think that there are some relationships where one person is an asshole.

And that asshole may not acknowledge that they were the asshole, but it doesn't mean that they're not. I just feel as though reading this book that's about women's stories about men, I'm struck by how it's been out, I don't know, two weeks. I'm struck by how many people have said to me, what about the men? What about the men's stories? Which is what Trevor is doing. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

And that asshole may not acknowledge that they were the asshole, but it doesn't mean that they're not. I just feel as though reading this book that's about women's stories about men, I'm struck by how it's been out, I don't know, two weeks. I'm struck by how many people have said to me, what about the men? What about the men's stories? Which is what Trevor is doing. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

We can rewind the tape.

We can rewind the tape.

You said how, no, you said how do the men, no, you said something about what about the men's point of view.

You said how, no, you said how do the men, no, you said something about what about the men's point of view.