Chloe Shih

We can probably go on many topics and then we can decide.

Sometimes, yeah.

Uh, no.

Right.

Yes.

Explosive.

Yeah.

I'll try to go into career when I transitioned out of that, when I was,

at google and at startup i think i still had this like weird relationship with authority fakers because i was like oh my god i'm a i'm a little tiny um young person in the world and everyone knows more than me but we work in tech and tech evolves so fast we're always working with new

communities, new processes, new everything.

And so actually the senior people are not always the most up to date.

So then I think I learned that pretty quickly.

Like sometimes people fall into these patterns of life and they don't grow beyond it.

And then as someone with fresh eyes, you see it and you're like, oh my God, this is so broken.

but there's like this weird culture of you're not allowed to, if you speak up about it, like you're not in the right place of power to do that.

And you're, you don't have that level quite yet.

And it's very hard to make movement happen.

And sometimes you stick into your lane because that is the easiest thing to do.

Yeah.

So, um,