Chloe Shih

But I just knew I wasn't an engineer type for software engineering.

um yeah so i think success was becoming this product manager like short term let's be this product manager make six figures be at a fang company so one of the big tech companies and i've made it that was a short-term goal okay so did you feel like you had made it when you ended up at google or meta or not google because i was in operations and i they treated you pretty poorly like

When we were at Google, we kind of used this term second class citizen.

If you're not in product engineering, data science, like there was an engineer.

I don't think they treated me directly this way, but we coordinated their schedules essentially for interviews.

And I think one of my coworkers was trying to coordinate for a Google engineer.

And then the Google engineer was like, well, I actually have real work to do.

So you can't schedule that.

And then we're like, okay, our jobs are so dumb.

Like, we're no one.

We're no one.

We are treated like nothing there.

So I think that was very fascinating to witness.

how different functions of each department, how the role in which they play at tech companies, how people perceive us.

Like, even though we studied the same, we were in the same department, I didn't functionally become an engineer.

And I went into people operations because I thought I was a people person.

And then to be treated so differently and to see like my classmates rise the ranks and make 120K base salary right out of college and still complain about how little they make.

And I'm just sitting there like at 50, whatever.

And it was like, man,

That's weird.