Chloe Shih

It'd be like a top down.

You got to get this done, get this feature done, get spec this out.

So I think that was like confusing, but I, I didn't process it as confusing.

I was like, oh, this is, I'm just raising questions like a good old product manager would.

So I think there was like a lot of tension there.

And then there were moments of, there's a lot of face in, you know, Chinese culture where image is really important.

Like you have to look like you know you're doing, you know what you're talking about.

And so I think there was a question that when I went to product review, someone like asked me a question and I was like, oh, that's a really good question.

I don't have an answer for you, but I can look into that.

I got feedback from one of the male managers and he was like, you can't say stuff like that.

You look junior.

And I'm just like,

I thought these product reviews were to help us find holes in our proposal and create conversation, not to look like we have the entire report done and review done and spec done.

It's a good system so we can catch each other and we can succeed.

So I think those dynamics were like,

oh i don't fit the company culture for leadership here um this was been really fun but i knew it wasn't long term okay so are so i mean it sounds so common sense like some of the stuff that you're saying like yeah it's so different like we're it's we're so westernized it's it's not it's it's not a it's not a western company

Yeah.

I think I'll share another story.

It's not like super related, but I've always been pretty bubbly, like facing externally.

I'm always been pretty expressive with my facial expressions.