Chris

That's all right.

Good morning, Gary and Tim.

I'm just wondering why the AFL doesn't go down the path of getting ex-AFL players, whether they're people that never made it onto...

you know, to a long career in the AFL to be the umpires and hire them as full-time.

Like, I mean, there's no better people than players who would understand the pace of play.

Some people that aren't working in other industries, make them full-time.

And, yeah.

I'm good, Ella, and thank you so much for having me.

This is my first podcast, so I'm a podcast virgin.

Yeah, I'm excited.

I'm nervous.

Yeah, I'm just excited to have a chat with you and yeah, going to hash some tea out and cover some stuff.

Okay, so I had a message on Instagram, and it was someone with a link to, like, apply for maths.

At the time, I was single.

You know, I did have the children coming in the future, and part of my personality is I'm like, you know what, I can do all of this at the same time.

So I sent a quick little video into them, applied, and then they called me into the Channel 9 studio, well, head office, whatever, in...

North Sydney and it was, I got a no first and they said like, no, you haven't been successful.

We haven't been able to find you a match.

And then randomly one day I put it in my no pile.

I was like, okay, it's not happening.