Chris Cuomo

I mean, I kind of forced the invitation. Did you go? I kept saying, I want to go. I want to go. No, I'm working on it now, because what I don't want is what I saw with Dr. Phil, OK? No disrespect to Dr. Phil. That's not what it's about. But I'm not going there as a propagandist for ICE raids. I want to show the reality over time.

of what they're dealing with, where they're going, what they're getting. And I think it would be really helpful to the American people. And NewsNation is willing to invest. And I think there's a bigger production to be done here of allowing transparency. Because what's going to happen is you're going to be hearing stories.

of what they're dealing with, where they're going, what they're getting. And I think it would be really helpful to the American people. And NewsNation is willing to invest. And I think there's a bigger production to be done here of allowing transparency. Because what's going to happen is you're going to be hearing stories.

Murphy's playing on something that's not a bad game, which is you're also going to sweep up the wrong people. You're going to people who entered here illegally, but they've done everything right since then. And that is not the threat to the country that was being initially articulated. That'll happen. But I don't want this to be a one-off every time where an exception is being made the rule.

Murphy's playing on something that's not a bad game, which is you're also going to sweep up the wrong people. You're going to people who entered here illegally, but they've done everything right since then. And that is not the threat to the country that was being initially articulated. That'll happen. But I don't want this to be a one-off every time where an exception is being made the rule.

And I think the more transparency there is, the more fair an assessment the American people have.

And I think the more transparency there is, the more fair an assessment the American people have.

Yes, but here's the thing. And this is why they've been a little slow coming out with their numbers. Where they're going to get people, it's not like they're doing what I thought they were going to do, which is the police tell us this is where the MS-13 guys are hanging out. This is where they live. We know where they are. We just don't go after them because it's like a big deal. Yeah.

Yes, but here's the thing. And this is why they've been a little slow coming out with their numbers. Where they're going to get people, it's not like they're doing what I thought they were going to do, which is the police tell us this is where the MS-13 guys are hanging out. This is where they live. We know where they are. We just don't go after them because it's like a big deal. Yeah.

And that's what they're doing. They're going to a place and they're getting people who are also there with other illegal entrants. So they're getting like eight people when they were looking for one specifically. What do you mean they're there with other illegal entrants?

And that's what they're doing. They're going to a place and they're getting people who are also there with other illegal entrants. So they're getting like eight people when they were looking for one specifically. What do you mean they're there with other illegal entrants?

They're illegal themselves. They're all illegal.

They're illegal themselves. They're all illegal.

Yeah, they live there. They work there. They're hanging out there. Whatever it is.

Yeah, they live there. They work there. They're hanging out there. Whatever it is.

I get it. I get it. But the idea of what the law is is pretty clear. The idea of whether everybody is the same within that bucket is not true. For instance, Dreamers. I only feel complete compassion for this group of people

I get it. I get it. But the idea of what the law is is pretty clear. The idea of whether everybody is the same within that bucket is not true. For instance, Dreamers. I only feel complete compassion for this group of people

who have, through no will of their own, have been put in a position where they are not able to succeed or fail on their own merits in this country because of their designation as Dreamers. Trump agrees with that. He was going to do it as a one-off in his first term, and the Republicans wouldn't let him, if you'll remember. Why?

who have, through no will of their own, have been put in a position where they are not able to succeed or fail on their own merits in this country because of their designation as Dreamers. Trump agrees with that. He was going to do it as a one-off in his first term, and the Republicans wouldn't let him, if you'll remember. Why?

Because they had givebacks that they wanted, chain migration and other things. The dreamer should be taken care of and taken out of this equation. And the fact that it's not is just ugly politics.