Chris Cuomo

But she's SiriusXM. Now Rogan is Spotify. But he built that all himself.

We are presently realizing... So there was that big wave of deals that you and I missed in the podcast space, where people were just throwing money to have a footprint in it, right? Rogan was the biggest of those deals, right? But... Then it went away. And when I got into it, I'm all self-financed. Because, well, I was damaged goods.

We are presently realizing... So there was that big wave of deals that you and I missed in the podcast space, where people were just throwing money to have a footprint in it, right? Rogan was the biggest of those deals, right? But... Then it went away. And when I got into it, I'm all self-financed. Because, well, I was damaged goods.

We are presently realizing... So there was that big wave of deals that you and I missed in the podcast space, where people were just throwing money to have a footprint in it, right? Rogan was the biggest of those deals, right? But... Then it went away. And when I got into it, I'm all self-financed. Because, well, I was damaged goods.

But people weren't looking to just throw money at a podcast because no one was making money on those deals. It was like relearning the Howard Stern lesson. That they paid him all that money at SiriusXM. And it's like, you know, what was the yield? Now... Different people are starting to buy up podcasts that are traditional media companies.

But people weren't looking to just throw money at a podcast because no one was making money on those deals. It was like relearning the Howard Stern lesson. That they paid him all that money at SiriusXM. And it's like, you know, what was the yield? Now... Different people are starting to buy up podcasts that are traditional media companies.

But people weren't looking to just throw money at a podcast because no one was making money on those deals. It was like relearning the Howard Stern lesson. That they paid him all that money at SiriusXM. And it's like, you know, what was the yield? Now... Different people are starting to buy up podcasts that are traditional media companies.

And they are the seed capital behind the private equity behind those organizations are starting to buy up these properties.

And they are the seed capital behind the private equity behind those organizations are starting to buy up these properties.

And they are the seed capital behind the private equity behind those organizations are starting to buy up these properties.

They're not controlled. Yes. Now, I struggle with that a little bit. That absolutely can be true. And again, Taibbi, Schellenberger, okay? Yeah. But I don't dismiss, and Barry Weiss, I don't like leaving her out. Free Press is a really cool thing that she's building there.

They're not controlled. Yes. Now, I struggle with that a little bit. That absolutely can be true. And again, Taibbi, Schellenberger, okay? Yeah. But I don't dismiss, and Barry Weiss, I don't like leaving her out. Free Press is a really cool thing that she's building there.

They're not controlled. Yes. Now, I struggle with that a little bit. That absolutely can be true. And again, Taibbi, Schellenberger, okay? Yeah. But I don't dismiss, and Barry Weiss, I don't like leaving her out. Free Press is a really cool thing that she's building there.

And I like that she's able to do something that I never saw at a news organization before, which is, she's decidedly pro-Israel, okay? She's Jewish, and beyond her own cultural and religious affinity, she has an ideological one. And she owns it and she's out there for it. You may disagree. That's okay.

And I like that she's able to do something that I never saw at a news organization before, which is, she's decidedly pro-Israel, okay? She's Jewish, and beyond her own cultural and religious affinity, she has an ideological one. And she owns it and she's out there for it. You may disagree. That's okay.

And I like that she's able to do something that I never saw at a news organization before, which is, she's decidedly pro-Israel, okay? She's Jewish, and beyond her own cultural and religious affinity, she has an ideological one. And she owns it and she's out there for it. You may disagree. That's okay.

But you know, whereas what the world that you and I grew up in media wise, they had all these opinions, but you'd never know it. You know what I mean? You'd have to glean it from what you saw on camera. Nobody ever came out and said it, you know, that we think that this is right. We think this is wrong. Very, very rarely. So what I like about it is.

But you know, whereas what the world that you and I grew up in media wise, they had all these opinions, but you'd never know it. You know what I mean? You'd have to glean it from what you saw on camera. Nobody ever came out and said it, you know, that we think that this is right. We think this is wrong. Very, very rarely. So what I like about it is.

But you know, whereas what the world that you and I grew up in media wise, they had all these opinions, but you'd never know it. You know what I mean? You'd have to glean it from what you saw on camera. Nobody ever came out and said it, you know, that we think that this is right. We think this is wrong. Very, very rarely. So what I like about it is.

I believe that there's space for all of it, okay? When I got into this business 25 years ago, they told me, you know network news is dead, right? The number one show on television is World News Tonight. So the idea that it's dead, it's not dead, it's just changing and there's stratification. But I do think there's a challenge afoot.