Chris Duffy

Weirdly, right, it gets to like 1030 and I go, oh, no, I am not going to get enough sleep.

And I'm also not that tired all of a sudden.

So now I have trouble going to sleep.

So the thing that I'm realizing in myself is that like ignoring the interoception versus listening to it is part of the issue of like how we actually get in tune with our own bodies is actually to just pay attention to the message that is already coming through.

One of the big messages that I took away for myself from Body Electric was that I might think, like, I have these habits that let me, you know, stay up too late and not move enough.

But I'll make up for it by, you know, three times a week, like you said, or even let's be honest, not three times a week.

One time a week, I'll go and do like three hours of exercise.

I'll go do some big swimming or I'll go for a hike or something.

Exactly.

I'll be like, this is my time.

And then I'll go, that made up for it.

Or...

especially with sleep.

I'll think like, OK, my kid is going to wake up at five and I'm going to have to be out till 11 and that is not going to leave me enough sleep.

But I will get a nap on the weekend.

And, you know, you talk really compellingly about the research that shows that it's it's definitely not clear that we can make up for lost sleep.

And it's certainly not obvious that getting a little extra sleep on the weekend makes up for cutting yourself short all through the week.

So that habit versus the like

Cheating myself is not actually that's a much more destructive habit than I had thought of.

From the outside, I'm like, what you're doing is working.