Chris Hadfield

And we're just people.

Absolutely.

I got to know Jane Goodall, had multiple things we did together, and she just sadly passed away recently.

But I was with her back in March, and we were talking.

One of the things she discovered when she went into the jungles, quite optimistically about, you know,

the innocence and the purity of animals, she discovered that chimpanzees murder each other and they wage war.

Tribes of chimpanzees wage war on each other.

They commit genocide.

I mean, and that's the closest animal in the entire living things on Earth that we're related to.

We are very much that flawed being.

But at the same time, we have developed society and societal rules and cultures that protect us from our worst nature.

And we have police forces and military forces.

And so all of that is going to be exported into space.

Right now, it's been maybe slightly more pure than it could have been because of the limited access to it.

But you need to remember, in 1962, both the United States and the Soviet Union detonated nuclear weapons in Earth orbit and had horrific effects.

consequences like almost the whole world could see aurora because of the big disruption of the magnetic field it wiped out a whole bunch of satellites and some of the ground stations in hawaii caught fire because of all the tremendous amount of energy coming from the sky so you know we're by no means perfect what we need to do is look at this new technology just like we have all the ones in the past and figure out how should we regulate it how do we integrate it

so that it actually serves a purpose for the human condition.

And I focus on a lot of different things, but that is very much one of them.

How can I be part of the group of people that is thinking long term, thinking big picture?

I'm the chair of the Open Lunar Foundation, looking at lunar settlement policy and how not to just mirror the problems that exist on Earth right now.