Chris Jennings

In some ways, the Ruby Ridge case involves the government spending an enormous amount of time and effort and bureaucracy to avoid gunplay.

Whereas what happens in Minneapolis, to my mind, looks like extreme carelessness, if not an effort to actually create chaos.

So I think the question of immunity for federal agents who kill people was very complex in the case of Ruby Ridge.

In the case of Minneapolis, it seems quite obvious that blanket immunity for armed agents of the state is a dangerous precedent because it's helped create an extremely volatile and, in this case, deadly situation.

You know, he remained very close with his daughters.

In the immediate aftermath, they all moved back to Iowa.

The girls went to live with their grandparents.

But then they pretty promptly drifted back, not to the area around Bonners Ferry and Naples, Idaho, which is where they had lived, but nearby in Montana.

Right.

Randy remained very close with his three surviving daughters who all – by all accounts, I didn't speak with any of them.

Nobody wanted to talk with me, which is fair and it's a complicated fact that what is American history for the rest of us is the most traumatic possible event in their lives.

Randy sort of became a one-man roadshow for his worldview.

With Vicki gone, the religiosity really ebbed away.

And by late in his life, he was publicly identifying as an atheist.

But the sort of politics that had come along with his faith remained.

So he continued to talk about the federal government's

you know, abuses.

And he spent a lot of time at gun shows, having his photo taken, signing books.

He went to Waco, Texas in the aftermath of the Branch Davidian compound at Mount Carmel.

He didn't shy away from the press and from telling his story.