Chris Johns

If you want to sit with people...

come and sit with me in the pub or in my kitchen.

And if I'm talking, let me talk.

If I'm silent, let me be silent.

If I'm crying, let me cry.

There's no fixing me, but turning up is incredibly important.

And some people get that and some people don't.

You touched on money and meaning and all that kind of stuff.

I think one of the reasons that's connected to all of this is that our

societies have taken a wrong turning in that the collective belief that we have when it comes to things like money and all that stuff that's associated with it is that more is good.

And I could go on about this all day, but I just observed that the richest man in the world, Mr. Musk,

is an obviously very unhappy ketamine adult freak.

He's as miserable as sin.

And so money doesn't buy you the happiness that people think it does.

The puzzle for me is that everybody knows this.

The other thing that everybody knows, because there's been study after study, data after data about what does make people happy,

And there's a famous study, I'm sure you've heard of it.

It goes by the short title, the Harvard study.

Harvard University started following in the 1930s, the graduating class of Harvard University.

I think John Fitzgerald Kennedy was in the first cohort actually of this study.