Chris Johns

But it's about balance at the end of the day.

And where does the balance lie?

Is it tilted too much in favor of one group rather than the other?

And as I was saying the other day, the rich political scene that people like Nigel Farage and other populists are tapping into here in the UK is the notion that there are two classes of people here, one that works and one that doesn't, and that the political class, the elites...

service the people who don't work, serve their interests and don't serve the interests of the people that do, which is a different way, I think, of making the same point that you made there.

And I think that point about balance is the most important one.

And I think even you would agree, Jim, that you don't get nothing for your taxes.

But the risk of putting words in your mouth would a better way of putting it be that you just think the whole balance of our societies is tilting too much one way rather than the other.

Yeah, and a lot of that demonization takes place on social media these days, doesn't it, Jim?

It does, of course, yeah.

This morning, you mentioned it's Tuesday.

We've had a report here in the UK from a combined Royal Colleges of Medicine about social media.

in which they compared the harms that social media do to smoking.

And I want to read a quote out to you.

This was written in November 2014 by an absolute genius, I have to say, a man with great foresight and perspicacity and all those other nice words.

And he wrote in a column in the Irish Times,

Like tobacco, social media will one day have to be regulated because of the harm that it does.

I'll bet you can never guess who wrote that in an Irish Times column, can you?

I think I'm looking at them.

Yes, you are, Jim.