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Chris Krupenya

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
43 total appearances

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Tea time... with an ape?

in those tasks point to indicate their comprehension and to indicate where they think this imaginary object remains.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

And so with Konzi, we were able to do more or less the exact same thing.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

And on the table, the partner would put two empty transparent cups.

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Tea time... with an ape?

And then the partner would take one of the cups and, you know, dump it back out into the pitcher.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

And at that point, there's only one bit of imaginary juice left in the remaining cup.

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Tea time... with an ape?

And the partner pushed the table forward and asked Kanzi.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

Our findings suggest that Kanzi was able to, in his mind, sort of entertain two versions of reality.

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Tea time... with an ape?

On the one hand, he sees two empty cups in front of him.

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Tea time... with an ape?

He knows that they're empty.

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Tea time... with an ape?

This ability to sort of go beyond the present, go beyond reality in your mind, is a sort of remarkable cognitive feat.

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Tea time... with an ape?

And it tells us, for one, that very likely that capacity, those roots of our imagination were present millions of years ago in the common ancestors that we shared with bonobos.

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Tea time... with an ape?

And I think it also tells us that there's just much more interesting mental life out there in the world than we previously thought.

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Tea time... with an ape?

Yeah, so it is true that this study only had one individual.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

And what we can say from it depends a little bit on what your questions are.

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Tea time... with an ape?

So one question you might have is, is this form of imagination unique to humans?

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Tea time... with an ape?

And I think for that question, all you need is one clear demonstration to say, no, it's not unique to humans.

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Tea time... with an ape?

Now, the broader question might be, is it the case that all other apes share this capacity too, or at least all other members of his species, bonobos?

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

And here, I think that is an empirical question where we do need

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

more research.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

Young female chimpanzees have been observed carrying around sticks or logs in ways that look like they're treating them like a doll or a baby.