Chris Lee

Like Utah is kind of the king of door-to-door and where a lot of the guys that are watching this, they're just like, dude, what?

Like,

basketball court?

Like how, how is that even a thing?

You know, massage therapist, what are you talking about?

Free meals.

I'm dumbfounded.

And so, um, but yeah, what, what would you say would be like two to three culture things that you would do if you're running a boring business right now?

you've had stagnant growth maybe you're you're sitting at four to five million a year in your hvac plumbing business and you haven't really scaled sales most of your technicians are sales people you don't really have like a sales department and you're trying to implement culture training sales like what are two or three things you're doing right now as a business owner

Yeah.

That's right.

So what was the most amount of like contractors slash employees that you ever had inside your organization?

it was i'm so grateful for what he gave us but i can't think of a better book for someone to read that and go okay this is how you build a company culture and how you scale something i love it i love it yeah the uh the abundant mindset of that is such is so powerful you know i think too often small minded and small business owners think from a standpoint of like i have secret sauce i can't let anybody else have it the reality is most people will not go and implement

Right.

Like, yeah, even if you teach them everything.

Right.

And so that's why for me, like, you know, when when somebody's got a new idea and they're like, hey, I need you to sign an NDA.

I'm like, for what?

Like I when I was young, I used to think all my ideas needed NDAs behind them.

And then I got older.