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Chris Masterjohn

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1255 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

So mitochondria produce usable energy from food in the form of ATP.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

When they do that, they have a bunch of different pathways through which electrons flow.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And methylene blue is able to grab those electrons and put them somewhere else.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

So they call it a redox cycler.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

So it's taking an electron here, it's shuttling it over there, it's taking an electron here, it's shuttling over there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And so if you have this, let's say the normal way for your mitochondria to produce energy has a main road where the electrons just flow straight through.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

Methylene blue is coming in and it's just taking that electron over here, it's throwing it in over there and so on.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

So if you've got a road that goes like this and you've got a blockage right here and methylene blue is just taking something out there and it's putting it over there, you actually wind up getting better energy with it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

But if you don't have a blockage, you're just creating random chaos in the mitochondria.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And in animal experiments, what they've done is they've said, okay, let's give these animals inhibitors of their mitochondria at specific locations and see what methylene blue does.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And if you don't have any inhibitors, and if the animal is genetically healthy,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

then you add methylene blue, they get less ATP.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

So the mitochondria is less effective at converting food to usable energy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

But if they do have an inhibitor, their ATP production goes down, you add methylene blue, it goes back up, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

So if there's a blockage to get around, methylene blue helps.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

So I think what's important if you really want to make sure that people are using methylene blue right is

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

to actually do mitochondrial testing that will tell you whether there was specific blockages are there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

I ran a biochemical optimization program a while back and one of the clients that I had in there, he tried methylene blue and he only got up to a half a milligram or a milligram and his mood was worse, his fatigue was worse, he had more anxiety, a bunch of problems that

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

The dose was too low to say it was doing a pharmacological messing with his neurotransmitters.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And so I think it was just making his mitochondrial function worse.