Chris Murphy

You know, mainly we're talking about government not stepping up and acting, but that has an impact on your ability to enjoy the sports that you like.

Yeah, no, that's right.

Yeah, but I have a stake in it, I guess.

I mean, I guess the reason that I have such strong feelings about why Congress should step up and do something, whether it's college athletics and compensation or these prediction markets, is because

I get such value from being a sports fan.

Like, I hate the fact that SportsCenter is now just a betting show.

It's like how I would release energy after a hard day in the Senate is that I'd come home and I'd just think about sports.

And so I get such value from watching my kid play.

I got value as a teenage athlete learning how to be a great teammate, learning how to lose, learning how to win.

So I know how much value sports can bring

to a person's life.

And so I don't want it corrupted by an economy that doesn't care about anything other than money or a government that just sits on the sidelines while these sports markets continue to crumble in atrophy.

Yeah, we are.

I mean, listen, we have become a soft culture in a lot of ways, and we have moral softness now because, like, we don't stand for anything as a country morally.

We're willing to accept these dizzying levels of corruption, and we—

I don't know that Hurley's the right guy to give that lecture, but Calhoun, right, as a pretty diehard Irish Catholic, could probably come in and give a good moral lecture to the country on what we should put up with and what we shouldn't put up with.

Yeah, there is still a part of our biology that responds to guilt, whether our economy responds to it or not.

Our DNA responds to it.

For my 20 years covering this issue, the trade is this.

They want more border security and enhancement.