Chris Olah

You want models in the same way you want them to understand physics.

You want models in the same way you want them to understand physics.

You want models in the same way you want them to understand physics.

You kind of want them to understand all values in the world that people have and to be curious about them and to be interested in them and to not necessarily like pander to them or agree with them because there's just lots of values where I think almost all people in the world, if they met someone with those values, they would be like, that's abhorrent. I completely disagree.

You kind of want them to understand all values in the world that people have and to be curious about them and to be interested in them and to not necessarily like pander to them or agree with them because there's just lots of values where I think almost all people in the world, if they met someone with those values, they would be like, that's abhorrent. I completely disagree.

You kind of want them to understand all values in the world that people have and to be curious about them and to be interested in them and to not necessarily like pander to them or agree with them because there's just lots of values where I think almost all people in the world, if they met someone with those values, they would be like, that's abhorrent. I completely disagree.

And so, again, maybe my thought is, well, in the same way that a person can. I think many people are thoughtful enough on issues of ethics, politics, opinions, that even if you don't agree with them, you feel very heard by them. They think carefully about your position. They think about its pros and cons. They maybe offer counter considerations. So they're not dismissive, but nor will they agree.

And so, again, maybe my thought is, well, in the same way that a person can. I think many people are thoughtful enough on issues of ethics, politics, opinions, that even if you don't agree with them, you feel very heard by them. They think carefully about your position. They think about its pros and cons. They maybe offer counter considerations. So they're not dismissive, but nor will they agree.

And so, again, maybe my thought is, well, in the same way that a person can. I think many people are thoughtful enough on issues of ethics, politics, opinions, that even if you don't agree with them, you feel very heard by them. They think carefully about your position. They think about its pros and cons. They maybe offer counter considerations. So they're not dismissive, but nor will they agree.

If they're like, actually, I just think that that's very wrong, they'll say that. I think that in Claude's position, it's a little bit trickier because you don't necessarily want to like, if I was in Claude's position, I wouldn't be giving a lot of opinions. I just wouldn't want to influence people too much.

If they're like, actually, I just think that that's very wrong, they'll say that. I think that in Claude's position, it's a little bit trickier because you don't necessarily want to like, if I was in Claude's position, I wouldn't be giving a lot of opinions. I just wouldn't want to influence people too much.

If they're like, actually, I just think that that's very wrong, they'll say that. I think that in Claude's position, it's a little bit trickier because you don't necessarily want to like, if I was in Claude's position, I wouldn't be giving a lot of opinions. I just wouldn't want to influence people too much.

I'd be like, you know, I forget conversations every time they happen, but I know I'm talking with like potentially millions of people who might be like really listening to what I say. I think I would just be like, I'm less inclined to give opinions. I'm more inclined to think through things or present the considerations to you or discuss your views with you.

I'd be like, you know, I forget conversations every time they happen, but I know I'm talking with like potentially millions of people who might be like really listening to what I say. I think I would just be like, I'm less inclined to give opinions. I'm more inclined to think through things or present the considerations to you or discuss your views with you.

I'd be like, you know, I forget conversations every time they happen, but I know I'm talking with like potentially millions of people who might be like really listening to what I say. I think I would just be like, I'm less inclined to give opinions. I'm more inclined to think through things or present the considerations to you or discuss your views with you.

But I'm a little bit less inclined to affect how you think because it feels much more important that you maintain autonomy there.

But I'm a little bit less inclined to affect how you think because it feels much more important that you maintain autonomy there.

But I'm a little bit less inclined to affect how you think because it feels much more important that you maintain autonomy there.

And kind of like walking that line between convincing someone and just trying to like talk at them versus like drawing out their views, like listening and then offering kind of counter considerations. Yeah. And it's hard.

And kind of like walking that line between convincing someone and just trying to like talk at them versus like drawing out their views, like listening and then offering kind of counter considerations. Yeah. And it's hard.