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Chris Pedregal

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
308 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And I think there's a real tension there, which is how much time do you spend building the next obvious five things that are going to be really useful to people versus you take the big swing. And for us, we want to move from a world where you use granola for notes to use granola to do most of your work.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And I think there's a real tension there, which is how much time do you spend building the next obvious five things that are going to be really useful to people versus you take the big swing. And for us, we want to move from a world where you use granola for notes to use granola to do most of your work.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

If you're writing a document or a memo, it should be way easier to do that in Granola because of all the context that we have about the work you're doing that's related to that. But that's a really big swing. Getting that right is going to take a lot of work and a lot of iteration.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

If you're writing a document or a memo, it should be way easier to do that in Granola because of all the context that we have about the work you're doing that's related to that. But that's a really big swing. Getting that right is going to take a lot of work and a lot of iteration.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

My view on this is you can worry about a million things. You should choose selectively what to worry about because there are very few things out of your control. And the competitor that we have chosen to worry about at Granola is the one that hasn't launched yet.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

My view on this is you can worry about a million things. You should choose selectively what to worry about because there are very few things out of your control. And the competitor that we have chosen to worry about at Granola is the one that hasn't launched yet.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

It's the startup that can look at what we figured out, what other people figured out, and start at that point and execute on that more quickly than us. That's what we're thinking about. I was surprised at how quickly the big tech companies reacted to AI.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

It's the startup that can look at what we figured out, what other people figured out, and start at that point and execute on that more quickly than us. That's what we're thinking about. I was surprised at how quickly the big tech companies reacted to AI.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Like there's this moment, I think like ChachiBT kind of went mainstream and then you saw every big tech company pivot and try to adapt to that strategy. So I was impressed by the leadership there. I think just because you choose to do something doesn't mean it's easy for you to execute on it. So one of our investors, he has this thing, which is if you list out all the AI features,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Like there's this moment, I think like ChachiBT kind of went mainstream and then you saw every big tech company pivot and try to adapt to that strategy. So I was impressed by the leadership there. I think just because you choose to do something doesn't mean it's easy for you to execute on it. So one of our investors, he has this thing, which is if you list out all the AI features,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

that you use on a daily basis, how many of them were built by big tech versus how many of them were built by startups? And I think a surprising number of those were built by startups, even though every big tech company is out there investing a tremendous amount of money to build AI features. So does that get figured out over time? Maybe.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

that you use on a daily basis, how many of them were built by big tech versus how many of them were built by startups? And I think a surprising number of those were built by startups, even though every big tech company is out there investing a tremendous amount of money to build AI features. So does that get figured out over time? Maybe.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Startups are oftentimes the R&D wing of all the big tech companies. And then once something's figured out, they can incorporate that to their large user bases. But generational companies, they figured something out earlier and they were able to leverage that into becoming something massive.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Startups are oftentimes the R&D wing of all the big tech companies. And then once something's figured out, they can incorporate that to their large user bases. But generational companies, they figured something out earlier and they were able to leverage that into becoming something massive.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I want tools that make us more human and better humans. And by that, I mean tools that kind of unlock our creativity, unlock our ability to just basically do all the things that humans are incredible at that no one else can do. I think the people who are building tools with AI need to be very intentional about that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

I want tools that make us more human and better humans. And by that, I mean tools that kind of unlock our creativity, unlock our ability to just basically do all the things that humans are incredible at that no one else can do. I think the people who are building tools with AI need to be very intentional about that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Because I think there's a fine line where you want to outsource all the rote work, all the boring stuff, the mindless stuff, but you really don't want to outsource the judgment. When you were talking about generating ideas and you're asking AI to generate 100 different ideas and you can choose the right ones, that's great. There's a danger, though, that that's what everyone is doing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Because I think there's a fine line where you want to outsource all the rote work, all the boring stuff, the mindless stuff, but you really don't want to outsource the judgment. When you were talking about generating ideas and you're asking AI to generate 100 different ideas and you can choose the right ones, that's great. There's a danger, though, that that's what everyone is doing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And now we're only looking at the ideas that are coming from AI. And that's just one example, but that trickles down to everything. It's like, oh, okay, well, this idea of writing is thinking. And if AI is doing the writing for you, well, a lot of that writing is just rote work. There's no value in any way. But some of it is where you do your thinking.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And now we're only looking at the ideas that are coming from AI. And that's just one example, but that trickles down to everything. It's like, oh, okay, well, this idea of writing is thinking. And if AI is doing the writing for you, well, a lot of that writing is just rote work. There's no value in any way. But some of it is where you do your thinking.