Chris Robinson

The extreme nature of some of it.

But that's another form of rebellion as well.

You're absolutely correct.

Not just the sale, but the...

The meaning of a record.

Again, in the big scheme of things, the record business isn't as old as, say, writing or whatever.

But in the way that we would listen to music and there's a company that would find talent and put that whole thing.

But yeah, making a record and saying, okay, we're songwriters.

uh, this is what we're, this is our, this is our latest work.

This is what we've been working on.

This is our craft and this is our talent and our poetry and our, this is what we want to say.

Now it's like, you know, an album, you know what I mean?

Like I personally think that it's still an important medium and I, I've yet to give up on it.

You know what I mean?

Uh,

If they said, oh, you know what I mean?

That's what Rich and I have always done.

We write songs.

It was one of the only things, again, the way we could experience the world was through that.

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