Chris Robinson

Don Bowles is the drummer in 45 Graves.

It was in The Germs.

No, but, well, I don't know.

But they definitely made amazing, beautiful, cool outsider art.

And, you know, I think something that we have a hard time understanding in this day and age is art that's made because of the visceral interaction with you and other people that has nothing to do with I'm going to be a big star.

Some of the things I think...

I mean, fuck, I'm like one of the last.

I mean, the Black Crows, we have to be one of the last bands of the time where we kind of felt it was our duty to never truly give in to the other side.

You know what I mean?

And kind of understand this us versus them thing.

idea, you know what I mean?

Or vibe is something that's inspiring and something that is like, you know, I was always interested in counterculture, you know?

And anyone, again, that's like why the algorithm maybe isn't as perfect or it never will overtake everything because there's always going to be the one person who's like, I'm going this way.

That's not enough for me.

You know, the deep dive people.

And so we kind of found ourselves in the crosshairs of

This kind of stuff.

The Cramps, we were in the Cramps, the Gun Club.

And then REM comes around, their first record, Chronic Town.

And so my dad and my mom and dad had a lot of records, maybe 250 records, 300 records, you know?