Chris Robinson

And then just some things that are incredible, like Italians and their clothes.

And even the rich, the aristocratic class in Naples to the person that could, when they didn't have any fabric,

Around this time after that, they're walking around Naples in beautifully tailored suits made of old army blankets that they would use black paint on to make them look chic.

Really?

Yeah, and I was like, wow, I would love to see that garment in a museum.

But just all manner of...

And there's another American guy was there at the same time and wrote another book about it, which is also very interesting because this guy was one of the only books of that time.

I have it in my phone, I could tell you.

But it talks about, like, the gay scene with the soldiers in Naples and stuff, too, like, during this thing.

Like, just...

Just, you know what I mean?

Incredible stories, incredible survival and heroics and art and culture that still survive during the darkest time.

It's a great, great book.

I mean, I think culturally, historically, I mean, I think one of the great.

Reasons Europeans have a much different attitude.

You're talking about, you know, Sicilians, Italians, everyone, French, Spanish.

Spanish people know how to have a good time, too.

Sure.

To have two events like the World War I and World War II, yeah, we have very little –

It's hard for us to understand what those two events must have felt like through communities, cities, families.