Chris Rufo

It's totally unconstitutional.

I'd like to see the administration use the nuclear option here and just say, we're blowing up this program, we're gonna give contracts to the best firms, doesn't matter what the skin color is, doesn't matter where they're from.

And look, the other thing that is kind of crazy, we look through a lot of these contracts.

These are supposed to be for socially disadvantaged or oppressed people.

But you have a firm, for example, that's run almost exclusively by Indian Americans with PhDs that have millions of dollars in assets, to give you one small example.

And you say, wait a minute, this is a group that has the highest education level, the highest income level, run by people who by any measure are part of the American elite now.

Why are we giving them a contract advantage over other groups?

It's indefensible.

And I hope that we see action, maybe not today or tomorrow, but I hope we see something by next week at the latest.

Yeah, there have been cases.

Certainly there are cases of fraud, cases that have been prosecuted.

But there's been no comprehensive audit of all of these approved minority contracting firms ever.

And we know it's rife with fraud.

We know this is part of it.

The other dirty detail or wrinkle that I heard from administration officials and others with knowledge, inside knowledge of the program, is that

You know, a lot of this money goes to the state of Alaska where there are native Alaskan tribes.

And there are these shell companies where private companies run by people from all different backgrounds use kind of token Alaska native firms to keep this flow of billions of dollars over time, tens of billions of dollars going.

And there are senators in Alaska who are very intent on keeping this spigot open.

These are Republican, at least one Republican senator

in Alaska.