Chris Rufo

I think highlighting that doesn't work, but I think highlighting and documenting concretely the disaster that Newsom has yielded in California could be, as we saw with Tim Walz, the thing that finally kind of tips the public opinion over the edge.

You're not going to win with Gavin Newsom because look, we'll admit it, you know, as some four very heterosexual men, Gavin Newsom is a handsome guy.

He's a charismatic guy.

He has some kind of magnetic appeal.

And look, like Fifty Shades of Grey is a popular novel for a reason.

I think he'd do very well with the women's vote on that.

But I think what does have a chance to really damage him is if we can show definitively that

What he's done in California is a disaster on an unprecedented scale.

And so my team right now is finishing a report which should come out in the coming weeks where we're tallying not just billions or tens of billions of dollars in fraud, but potentially hundreds of billions of dollars that has disappeared from the California state budget during Newsom's tenure.

It's a really interesting question.

There's the direct beneficiary and the indirect beneficiary.

Let's talk about Medi-Cal, which is California's healthcare system for the poor.

And so, look, Americans...

During his time in office, Gavin Newsom has almost doubled public expenditure on Medi-Cal.

you know, they like their Teflon politicians from Bill Clinton to someone like Donald Trump.

It's something now like $200 billion a year in public spending in California, which is bigger than the GDP of many, many countries around the world.

I think highlighting that doesn't work, but I think highlighting and documenting concretely the disaster that Newsom has yielded in California could be, as we saw with Tim Walz, the thing that finally kind of tips the public opinion over the edge.

We know from government estimates that between 10% and 25% of Medi-Cal is lost to outright fraud.

Criminals who take that money and in many cases send it overseas.

And so you're asking, well, what interest does someone like Gavin Newsom or state Democrats have in allowing this to continue?