Chris Ryan
Appearances
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
I was trying to be nice.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
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The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
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The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
He's kind of the perfect example of English teacher guy, English student. Right.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Cooper in A Star is Born.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
I don't think enough people have seen the movie yet. I think when he is actually like, first of all, this is he's already doing the Lord's work on the promo tour, which we're going to talk about. Yeah. But once people see this movie, I think that he might slingshot ahead of Ralph Fiennes and Adrian Brody. So what are the cases for Rafe Fiennes and Adrian Brody?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
So Rafe is probably a... He deserves it. Body of work. Conclave's really good. Body of work? Like a Joel Embiid type of case two years ago? He's never won. Okay. I'm wearing a thunder hat. I don't even acknowledge that. Uh... Yeah, body of work for Ralph Fiennes. And I think for Adrian Brody, it would be like, this is it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
This is the performance of a lifetime, even though he's already won, which I think will probably count against him. Already won. That's a strike.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
It's the first movie that I feel like, this and Dune, but definitely Dune 2, where it's like Timmy's a man now. He's actually a convincing guy in his late 20s now. Remember when this happened to Leo?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
It was like the Catch Me If You Can era where it was like, oh, Leo's an adult now. Yeah, he had done The Beach and a couple of other things to try and move into out of heartthrob and into adult. I remember this happened to you when we went to The Ringer.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
That was my blood diving.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Monica Barbaro. Monica Barbaro. Yeah, she was great. She plays Joan Baez.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Yeah, Norton is Pete Seeger. I think it's a movie that'll probably be like, a lot of people are like, I love the performances. I love the music. I don't know if there's like a huge story there. But that's been a lot of musical biographies in general.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
That one had a little bit more inherent tragedy built into it. But I think that this one is just going to really blow people away. Because if you see the trailer, and if you just look at Timothee Chalamet in his day-to-day life, you probably wouldn't guess that he could pull this off.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
So Chalamet's using the opportunity that he might have here where he's odds on, or he's going to be an odds on Oscar favorite, if not like the prohibitive favorite. And he seems to be taking most of that time to make it clear how much you love sports.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
And I love it. Now there's a very, you know, not famous, but infamous clip of him on Kimmel from like eight years ago or whatever it was, where he talks about how much he loves you. Right.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
He's done Theo Vaughn. He's done game day. He's done. He was good. He was great on game day. When are we getting Timmy on the bill pod? I put the request in.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
The flip side is that like there are photos of him like autograph hounding Amari Stoudemire. Let's talk about it. Let's find out this side of you, the sports side. It's not coming out in a Theo Vaughn podcast. What do you think you would do to him? Would you just put him on Guess the Lines blind? I want to go full 80 minutes.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Travis Hunter, how does he translate to the NFL?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
What if he's not coming on your pod because he has lost most of the money he's made following million dollar picks?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
LeBron and Curry and Durant stay too long? What's your take? Are threes, are we getting too much of a homogenous product with threes?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Yeah, this is what the people want, Chalamet.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
We don't want you talking about how you've just been building your whole acting career towards playing Bob Dylan. We want to know whether or not you think Jalen Hurts can win a Super Bowl.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Oh. Like a guy who's coming up through Texas high school football. Isn't Mike McDaniel more fun?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
If we find out that Mike McDaniel got involved in some crazy Scarface Coke thing in Miami. Mike McDaniel crossed with Pain and Gain. Yes.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
It's like we love these plays you're calling, but our wide receivers keep getting killed out there. Right.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Oh, like a horror? Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
I think that this movie, when you see him in Dylan, he's got a little hair on his chest. And I think he needs to be back in the mix for Heat 2 conversations. I don't know what part, but I'm just saying he could be in the conversations. And then I think you're right. A horror movie would be incredible.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Is there anything from... Has he done Fincher yet? He hasn't. He hasn't done Fincher yet. No. It's Villeneuve. It's James Mangold for Complete Unknown. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Timothee Chalamet, The New Jersey Drone Story. Oh, that would be great. It's like just a guy in Jersey.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
And it could be like Spielberg, like Close Encounters or War of the Worlds.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
That sounds great. Yeah. Close encounters of the drone kind.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Oh, like a Bourne kind of thing?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Oh, sports spy. Maybe he's like... He's like Connor Stallions.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Yeah, maybe he plays Scott Boris. That could be a sports movie. Sure. That would be a great transformation. It'd be like when Leo played J. Edgar.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Because we get Miami. Yeah. There's drugs. You could embed him in the Miami football scene. You could make it be like Teddy Bridgewater is hanging out and stuff like that. It would be awesome.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
You can't leave Cooper like that.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
I don't know how good it is, but I know that I haven't had more fun talking about a TV show this year. Literally, every conversation I have about Landman seems to go 20 minutes. And it's just like... We're hysterically laughing, but also deeply, deeply involved in the plot. This is Taylor Sheridan's... I didn't know that he was ever going to have a home run again after Yellowstone.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
I thought he would have shows... Much less a grand slam. That niche people... People love Lioness. People liked it in Mayor of Kingstown, Tulsa King, whatever. The Yellowstone spinoffs. This feels like it could be the biggest show he made. I don't...
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Billy Bob's no Kevin Costner in terms of the matinee idol department, but in terms of the amount of people watching it and the amount of times where you're just like, there's something in here for everyone. You can be into this because it's Friday Night Lights. You can be into this because it's Sicario. You can be into this because it's Dallas. I don't know, man. I love this show.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
The first two episodes, Ali Larder mostly just appears on FaceTime.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
They were like, well, can you FaceTime in? It would be like basically being like, we're going to have Sangoon just like only check in from the locker room. He's not going to play at all. Yeah. It's an incredible performance by her, but you're right.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Like after the first two episodes, I think the show teaches you how to watch it, which is essentially like there are going to be three or four scenes where Billy Bob absolutely monologues and cooks. And the only time that doesn't happen is when Ham calls him to yell at him. Right.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
And then there's all this domestic drama between Billy Bob's character, Tommy, and her character, his ex-wife, now current wife. And it's just amazing. The funny thing is, did you notice that no one's giving Taylor Sheridan notes? This is Andy's big thing, Greenwald's big thing. There are scenes where you're like, how much longer is this scene going to go?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Like the dinner scene from episode four, I think, where she makes the wild boar bolognese. Yeah. And then he's like, are you on your period? And like, there's just, and you're like, how fucking long is this happening for? And it feels like you're just like in some sort of experimental drama.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
He just wrote it for him. It's in his voice.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
A little bit of the NASA guy from Armageddon.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Yeah. And I don't know what Allie Larder thinks the show is, but whatever she's doing, I love it. But the show seems to be bending towards her now. Like in the beginning, I was like, this is insane. Like she's in a bikini on FaceTime crying every scene.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
And now it seems like she is an integral part of the drama and is like in every scene, even when guys are getting absolutely murdered by falling pipes. Right.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
What's weird is that Demi Moore is in this show.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
And if you would watch the trailer or if it was just the call sheet, you'd be like, yeah, Demi Moore is going to have a much bigger part in this show than Allie Larder.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
needed the extra name but so those two and then the actor who plays Billy Bob's son in this oh Jacob Laughlin yeah so he was in this movie he's just really good yeah he was in a movie a while back this Jeff Nichols movie called Mud that's really really good when he was a kid actor and I haven't really seen him recently and he's awesome He is kind of like the Matt Saracen character.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
That's a good comparison. The prodigal son who wants to be an oil man but doesn't want to do it on his dad's back. He's just really soulful, really good. It could be really bad. This show would not work if he wasn't doing a good job.
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Well, he does a real live forever McBain speech in the middle of that.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
And Dave Annabelle on Yellowstone.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
One of the best parts about this show, which is so refreshing, is that it's not a overall mystery or overall plot that you have to keep track of all these different moving pieces.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
You're just like, there's a problem every week. It's like dead body in the oil well that we got to figure out. We got another clue. Yeah. It's just every week, it's like West Wing or like Grey's Anatomy or like any big, really successful drama. They just give you a problem that Billy Bob has to solve by the end of the episode. Or not.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Or he's like, we're fucked and Jon Hamm's going to get mad at me.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
It's awesome. It was so good. One other thing I wanted to mention is that I think I've realized that I'm a secret huge fan of shows where people have to travel a huge distance to have a very simple conversation. This was a big thing for Ozark where it was like, I need to see you. And they'd have to drive all the way around the lake to the resort or all the way back. In car scenes?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
This scene, this show is basically like, They need to have a conversation. You have to get on a private plane and fly from the Permian Basin to Dallas to get yelled at for five minutes. And I was just like, if we had that at the Ringer, if the Ringer was based in West Texas and you were like, I'm going to need to talk to you. And I'm like, I got to go.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
How fast can you get from Fort Worth to Houston? The private plane leaves Permian. I fly to Dallas and you're like, I didn't much care for that Celtics team yesterday.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Let's talk about it. It is like we said about Tatum. I know you're emotional, but don't ever yell at me. I'm your boss.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Yeah, but I think that he does a really good job explaining things for people who might be looking at this more from the business perspective. Like the two speeches he's given, well, the one... You're talking about Ham. Yeah, Ham. The one where he's like, this business is like constant crisis punctuated by extraordinary success. I'm like, that sounds like an incredible idea for a show.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
And two, like when he's just like, I'm the bad guy. Like everybody hates... I've accepted the fact that the oil industry is the villain. So all my job is to do is keep oil between this number and this number. Well, and then the lawyer... Oh, yeah.
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Yeah.
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
And Billy Bob's got to memorize like five pages of a monologue. Right. It's an incredible feat athletically. I do agree. Ham seems to be always getting off a plane, getting off on his mobile phone and then hanging it up. Yeah, they're like, John, can you film from two to five? Yeah. We just need to get off a plane and you're yelling at somebody.
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
I put on a suit. I got off a plane. I talked to him. And Demi Moore was like, I loved it. Two-day shoot. I think that this show does really remind me that it's okay for TV to be a lot of fun. We have had a nice long stretch of prestige television that's very serious, very like, this is about important issues. There are important issues in Landman, but you can take them as seriously as you want.
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
There is at least three things in each episode where you're like, what did I just watch?
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
But the father-son story is like definitely really affecting. Like I really, really like it.
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
Are you going to say the line? There's been a couple of lines that are like... Oh, yeah. They'll push in almost an R. Yeah? Yeah. So she says, I may have to suck Victor's dick to get my Bentley.
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
I honestly wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, I think that Yellowstone was like a phenomenon where there wasn't really anything like that. There was no Western on TV at that moment, I don't think.
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
This is a little bit more familiar to people, but I think as it keeps going, they're probably only going to be... It's so popular, I wouldn't be surprised if some huge star does a guest star next year. That's... I was going to bring that up. Andy Garcia is supposed to be on this season. It's going to be getting bigger and bigger.
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No, people were actually watching Yellowstone. Yeah, right.
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You know what's crazy about this show too is how fast they made a couple of the sets become like instantly recognizable and kind of iconic. Like the cafe that they all hang out at, the bar, where it's like everyone's drinking all day long because they have like crazy shifts. Yeah. And then, like you said, the McMansion and the Country Club, you're kind of like, I already know this world.
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Like this is, it usually takes a show like years to be like, oh, and you know this place and you know that place. And it's like, no, they instantly kind of hit all of that stuff.
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Yeah.
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So where does it go? Where does it go? From here?
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
I think that they'll probably keep playing out the adversarial relationship between Monty and Tommy, but I think that the cool thing about this series is that it'll probably be like Yellowstone where there's a big bad every season. And so there will be a big plot for each season, but all the parts will stay the same.
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
What are the lessons?
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And the daughter is just going for it. She's the sister of a woman who was on The Bachelorette.
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The NBA’s Danger Cycle, Plus Usyk Is Invincible, ‘Landman’ Can’t Lose, and Chalamet Will Win the Oscar With Chris Mannix and Chris Ryan
And yes, is 28. I mean, she's 28 years old. She's playing like an 18 year old. It is an extraordinary bit that she's just like, I'm nude in this house while like the lawyer guy is like, I can't look at you.
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Yeah, Succession is way more prestige.
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Hardest one to thread. I think it's more, it would be something that like David E. Kelly did. It would be like Big Little Lies, maybe. That's good. Like that kind of like, this is very pop. It's got big people in it. People will just like looking at the furniture.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Or you would
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My mom's like that with Lioness. She was like, have you heard about this Lioness show? And I'm like, yeah, I have. Right. And then all of a sudden it was like, all my episodes were done. So do you think Taylor Sheridan took like the limitless pill?
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So he has now written at least 40 hours of television this year.
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I don't get it.
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I don't know, but this is like, we haven't seen a run like this in Sorkin, where Sorkin wrote every episode of West Wing. Can you imagine? And this show, honestly, it kind of reminds me of West Wing a little bit. It's a lot of people like walking and talking and solving problems in entertaining ways.
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But there would be like three good plots per episode of West Wing.
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There would be like an overarching thing where it's like the president's sick or whatever. But like for the most part, it would be like Josh is going to solve something. Sam's going to do something. And like CJ is going to do something. And then you get a big speech from the president. Yeah.
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There is no writer's room.
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I'll tell you what is unprecedented. It's unprecedented for someone to have the biggest show on TV end while possibly one of the biggest shows on TV is beginning and you're responsible for both of them. I can't think of another time that's happened.
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That you were writing both of them.
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That's coming up next. I thought you were going to be like first take, but for like actual land man. Oh, that'd be amazing.
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Should Cooper have kept it in his pants? Coming up.
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Does it use more energy than we think?
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Oh, I can't even remember. I just refer to her as Allie Larder. She doesn't need a name.
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Yeah. Because Allie Larder's Instagram. She's like, Angela's back. Episode four.
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The odds of Mallory loving the show are 100%. She texts me on Saturday saying six hours till Landman. I'm like, Lamar Jackson's on.
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Yeah. I'd like him to go to Boston and then orchestrate a trade for Kyrie Irving to come back to Boston with him. And then maybe orchestrate a trade for James Harden to come back.
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Yeah.
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Wasn't there, like, a 15-minute honorarium to him during the dunk contest or something? Like, yeah, that was weird. Yeah, it really feels like we're pushing. He's still alive. Like, he's right there. Right, then he came out.
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Vince Carter's at SNL 50, like, ah, it's all right.
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Is he coaching? He's coaching now, right?
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What are you going to do if Leon Rose trades Josh Hart and that podcast gets broken up? Fuck.
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Paul George, did you guys know that I found this stat? Apparently he's recorded 19 podcast episodes as a member of the Sixers and scored two points in his last game as a member of the Sixers before the All-Star break. It's kind of a bummer, yeah. Turns out that's why he was available. You know, like... Do you want to walk us through where I'm at? Yeah. Where are you at? It's pretty dark.
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I kind of do, man. That's why I'm wearing this fucking thunder hat. It's just pretty brutal. I think Maxie is the thing that's made me most sad because he's obviously so bummed out by this that even his effervescence is dimming. The Embiid thing is, I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't think he's ever going to be what we thought he was going to be.
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We thought Gordon Hayward was going to pass away that night. You know what? Eventually Brad Stevens.
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Least favorite athlete ever? That's just what legacy media wants you to believe, man. Yeah.
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Are we picking that up? They're buds. All right. Lance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong. Thank you, Lance, for coming tonight.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to go 19 just because it feels super recent. I'm sure it's genuine, but I don't recall him being a part of the Eagles before 2017. She's more recent. She was on a late night show talking about loving the Giants five years ago. So it's just cool. You can love who you want to love, but she just switched around on the NFC.
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That's a really good one. I like that one. How about you, Sean? Before every game, he's like, Neil.
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Bill, how many times have you seen the Brutalists in theaters?
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It was like two and a half. Brutalist is too long, but a nine-hour Celtics documentary was just right. Could have been longer.
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I actually do want to keep teasing this out of how you'd fix murder.
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It's like 40 minutes longer than John Wick 4.
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He's the people's champ, though. People love this kid.
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That's true.
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Yeah, I did. It's an underappreciated classic.
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We were talking about a bunch of 2s recently.
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We should jump straight to Heat 3. Just skip 2. Skip 2. Smart idea. You avoid the 2 problems and then it's just like, just finish the trilogy without making 2.
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Ooh.
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International movie. That guy is about to be right in the frame with Pope Francis. He's in the mix. What's your most disappointing sequel? I got recency bias, but Gladiator 2 is a real bummer. It had all the guys in it. It had all my guys, and it just wasn't as good. Isn't Ridley Scott like 88?
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Are you trying to get a raise? What's going on?
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We're going to circle back.
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We almost died on the way there and back, yeah. It was fucking cold.
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Is Caitlin Clark the most popular basketball player under 30? I mean, she's definitely like appointment television, right? Like if she's going off, people are going to be like, we got to turn this on. You got to turn this on. How many basketball players? What was that? Bronny? Yeah, definitely. Some of those G League games, me and all the fellas. Just watching some G League.
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Do you think it would have been funny if LeBron had backed out of the All-Star game and inserted Bronny in his place? Yeah.
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He should just start doing stuff like that. Would you have been surprised? Adam Silver would be like, what can I do? No power here.
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You just won the Super Bowl. I'm fine. What do you have, CR? The Mavs. Yeah. Mavs in six over Boston. Derek Lively makes a great comeback. No, I think it's the Thunder. I think the Thunder are, like, historically good. Thunder over Celtics. What's your pick, Bill?
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How are you feeling about second row Joe these days? Well, first of all, we call him Coach Joe. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to disrespect him. I don't know where I got that.
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We're going to be here for like two and a half hours, by the way.
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I'll take Neon Bordeaux from Blue Chips as my center. It's Shaq. Only red flag is that he got 520 on the SATs and misspelled his own name, but... Culturally biased. I think once we get him into our program and we just let our culture loose on him, it'll work and I get my big man. So I'm really excited. So I thought he was going to be the first pick. Me too.
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But then I didn't know Shea was going to pick first.
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I forgot that Patino coaches Western Texas in that movie.
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If Palinka calls Neil McCauley for Luca, does he go, there's a dead man on the other end of this phone?
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He's going to... There's another 7'5 guy in the tournament. He's going to take it over.
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I think I'll take Billy Hoyle from White Man Can't Jump. I like it. I like it. It's a little bit of a debate as to whether Billy or Sidney are who's better. You know, I know they played right into my hands. But I think Billy just has that sense of fashion, that flair, that big game appetite. I love it. I would say that, so go ahead.
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And if he hadn't had the distraction of Rosie Perez being on Jeopardy, who knows what he could have achieved, you know? We're just a distraction to Rosie Perez in general.
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Well, we have to see how my backcourt fills out, Bill, but thank you for asking.
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A lot of this. A lot of his stuff is in slow-mo.
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I liked it to the extent, but it's really going to have to just convince these guys to want to play more basketball and to play more hard basketball. I was thinking about this. I just think that this is probably entering the Pro Bowl zone where you just got to move it to the end of the season after the season. I just feel like you guys want to play. We'll have like seven foot rims.
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He hasn't picked in a while, right? Did I screw this up? Yeah, you went this way. Then we went that way. You picked two. Then you went back to me. Then we went this way. Then you went... This is going great. It's your turn. It's your turn. No, it's...
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Kyle, turn the fucking TikTok camera on. I'm taking Jimmy Chitwood from Hoosiers.
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It's a great pick. It works for the Lakers. It works for Team Chris. It's fine. Clutch just absolutely nails. He's mostly been playing on farmland for most of his life. So I feel like when we get him into a modern sports science program, who knows what he could do.
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You can do somersaults, you know, like whenever you can get trampolines out there. Like it could be like basketball, but I don't know about like the mid season after Luka gets traded. Let's all stop, go to this place and pretend like we care about this game.
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I'm up again? Yeah. Okay. I'll take Shep from above the rim. Our advanced analytics team loves this. 40 points in two minutes. He's 14 for 14 from the field. Just like bombing away from three way before three and D was a thing. In corduroy pants.
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He was still in his work clothes.
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No, no, no. Go back and watch the tape, man. Come on. We studied it.
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Start at the beginning of escape.
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You don't have to worry about load management.
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Guy gets his head cut off, comes back to work the next day.
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What's that? Is his owner a GM?
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CR? All right. So I have Shep. I've got Chitwood. I've got Hoyle. And I've got Neon. It's a great team.
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I need a deep bench guy who's going to keep everybody loose. So I'm going to go with Jim Carroll from Basketball Diaries played by Leonardo DiCaprio. I love the idea of him getting Jimmy Chitwood into heroin. You know, just to mix it up. Six man? Yeah, deep bench. Another white guy. I'm sorry about that. By accident.
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I don't know why. That's a good laugh, Phil.
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I'll take Tupac from above the rim as my coach. Oh, birdie. Birdie. Interesting motivational techniques, communication style, and I just think that this is a team of guys like you've mentioned, quitters, and perhaps Tupac will motivate them to do otherwise.
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Yeah.
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That's right. So I have two. Now Sean's up. Now Sean's got?
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Gone with the Wind is a weirdly popular movie in my locker room, actually. Yeah, right. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER
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Why are you staring right at me when you're saying that?
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Would that go over well if I did that? All right. Let's think about it for a second. For my owner, I've been thinking about this a lot. From a heist film, I'm going to go with Krista from The Town, played by Blake Lively. I just think Blake Lively in the owner's box is box office. That's just absolutely amazing content. And do I get a second pick here? No. Okay.
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You only pick once. Okay.
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That's okay. Just one pick or two picks now?
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Alright, for my assistant coach, I'm going to do Rusty from Ocean's Eleven. Just absolute, like when the coach yells at you, when Tupac's done yelling at them, Rusty will just be like, sorry guys, don't worry about it. He's not really going to kill you after the game. So yeah, I'll go with Rusty for assistant coach.
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You could win like seven games in the regular season and they get the one seed?
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You never know when he could just light it up, like, just absolute great vibes guy. What race is he?
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I have Tupac. He has Ben Affleck.
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I had an idea I wanted to bounce off you for this, because I was thinking about, because if you say Pro Bowl and you make the NBA more like the NFL, why doesn't the NBA do bye weeks for teams but never take an all-star break? The all-star weekend always happens at a time where football's over, you want basketball. You want important basketball games.
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Chris, you're up again. All right, so I need a sixth man and an assistant coach?
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Um...
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We can do the NBA player playing themselves, just one pick. Do it. All right, LeBron from Trainwreck. Yeah. Plays basketball. Why boo? You guys really want me to take Norton? Yeah. Sorry for just trying to put together a diverse locker room, Austin.
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Wait till Krista from the town talks to him for five minutes. Hey, LeBron, here's some Percocet.
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Why not just give the Bucs 10 days off, but then bring them back and have it all work so that teams have bye weeks throughout the season? That was a Joel Embiid joke you guys didn't hear because of the mic. But yeah, that is what they're trying to do with Joel Embiid.
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Yeah, it's like the guy who came up with starting Draymond or whatever.
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All right, for my assistant, I'm going to go Shooter from Hoosiers to his hopper. Woo! I kind of like the amount of substance abuse happening on my team. Yeah. Either these guys are going to keep each other on the straight and narrow, or we're going to turn into train spotting.
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It's like when Spielberg made Schindler's in Jurassic Park the same year.
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It's just one last sixth man or bench guy here for me.
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I will be taking, this is the easiest one. I'll take Kelso from Heat. The guy who plans the whole robbery. The guy was just like, it's just out there. You just got to go grab it. So yeah, that's easy.
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No, it's a heist movie, bro. Oh, okay.
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Yeah, a lot to watch tonight, Bill. Now You See Me, Ambulance.
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Like, probably the android from Prometheus getting picked before I got to it.
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But this is the part of the behind the music where I'm like, I can do anything. But then Bill's like, we knew right then that Chris was overextending. Mountains of coke everywhere. It's like, no, put me on more pods.
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2011.
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Was me. My reaction was I was coming out of the movie Companion and was just like utterly shocked. Couldn't believe it. My favorite thing about it since it's happened is definitely that the Mavericks keep finding executives to do profiles where they're like, I underestimated the crowd reaction to this. Like Rick Welts just did one. I was like, Rick Welts works for the Mavericks?
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And they're just pushing these guys out on the ice floe to get shot with arrows like every other day. It's amazing. Nico's doing a good job getting other people involved.
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I kind of like having crazy owners back, though.
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I swear to God, if the Lakers get some crazy deal for a center over the summer that they were saving the spot for or the trade assets for, I'm going to lose it.
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When Rich Paul was like, I had no idea.
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Luca was like, I just got an awesome $15 million house in the greater Dallas area.
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Yeah, he kind of dresses like Neil McCauley a little bit. Maybe a slightly tighter slack. Do you think he has a condo with no furniture in it? Yeah, because genies never let him feel comfortable enough to buy furniture. I do like the idea of it being a Ryan Murphy FX series, but I would want the same cast as the Aaron Hernandez show. Like, just put them in...
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Get Norbert Leo Butz to play Patrick Dumont.
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That means you get to play Donald Sutherland who benefited. That sounds great.
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I actually did do a little bit of research. I did some Zapruder on this. It does feel like Dort's slipping before he even realizes that Ja's there.
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Do you want to get it off your chest early or do you want to save it for later?
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Yeah, it's pretty rare to go into a closing stretch of a game, especially with a comeback that significant. I think they were down 29 at the most, right?
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And then to have the defensive possessions be the thing you're going to walk away remembering, it's not like Corey Brewer and Josh Smith bombing away. It's like, no, Alex Caruso literally stopped the Grizzlies from scoring 10 times, and that swings the game.
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I thought you were going to say as a guy with a receding hairline.
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Yeah, I thought he had that one nice shot that went high off the glass towards the end of the game. Every once in a while, he pulls something out of his bag. His handle does not really... He doesn't have the handle of somebody that you can trust in a fourth quarter or in a big game like that right now.
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I will say that for Memphis, it's probably incredibly difficult to navigate the Jaws here, Jaws not here. Yeah. Because they feel like such a different roster when he goes out. It automatically makes... you know, your canards like that much more important. Your conchar is important. Like, whereas those guys should be additive and not essential.
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And so I just, I really feel for Memphis, they're probably not, they're probably never going to win this series and they were probably going to get, maybe not swept, but it was probably gonna be a gentleman's sweep. And now it just seems like this might be a franchise altering night for them.
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I hated it, man. It was just like, it's the, the, the jaw experience and such a sick nutshell where he was about to do something incredibly sick.
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And you're like, this is why I watch basketball. This is incredible. And then just the freaky fluky stuff. But I want, I want like guys to try to do stuff like that. That's why you watch hoops.
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I missed it live, so I went back a couple of minutes because when I flipped over, I flipped over when I saw Verno tweet like, oh no, and I was like, this could only be one of three or four things. So I went back And when I established it wasn't a Cowboys draft pick situation, I was like, oh, let me find when the jaw injury must happen.
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And I went too far back and you can watch him and you can see like all the life in his eyes. And he's just such the heartbeat of the franchise while he's out there. And like the crowd is feeding off of him. So it was really eerie to go back like even a minute before the injury and then it all changes.
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Yeah, it's really hard. I said this last Thursday, it's hard for me to imagine them not winning the title. I thought that this was a real cool gut check win despite the fact that the headline will be Ja. The chat thing that I noticed down the stretch, Bill, with the threes was just how he rendered Edie kind of unplayable.
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I mean, he was still out there, but watching Edie try to get out to the perimeter, I was just like... Just got to grab it.
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He was MFing the crowd as a defender. I've not seen that recently.
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They look like a team that fired their coach and GM a week before the season ended. Sure do.
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And there's three guys on the team who have been the sort of core of this run. And it just feels like the end of a cycle. And these guys are looking around for reinforcements. And the only place they can look is to Westbrook, who's bounced around the NBA for a couple of seasons now.
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And the bridge to nowhere, like the young kids that they were supposed to develop just are obviously not ready or capable. And Porter, on any given night, you're like, are you on planet Earth or not, man? So it's just... We've got one arm now, too.
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After watching these three games, I'm surprised they won one. That's what I'll say.
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I mean, Adelman is doing his best, I guess. I don't even know what you would do with a week's prep to become the head coach of a championship hopeful. But I think if we were wondering whether or not Josh Kroenke was like, oh, I think we actually have the pedigree to win the title.
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We just need different voices in the room versus I want to get this stuff, these guys out of here so we can get ready for the draft and the offseason now. I think it might be the latter.
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Just how taxing title runs are. I mean, even I think your beloved Celtics are experiencing this a little bit physically. Obviously, that has something to do with the elbows and the dives going on in that series.
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But it's amazing to watch just even Jokic and how the tank is kind of like... I mean, it's not empty, but it is certainly half full and maybe has a little bit of accidental diesel in there at this point. And maybe he's looking around and he's saying, I don't have any help. But how do you rebuild this team? I'm asking you because I'm like, what are their moves here? What are their options?
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Do you have to take two steps back to take a step forward? I hate to be writing their obituary already, but he's too amazing.
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They squeaked out a Game 1 win in overtime and didn't really look that in it tonight. Game 2 was a little closer, but I just feel like the Clippers are attacking them from all over the court, like Rob said earlier. So the narrative here is like... Man, like winning a title and being competitive over the course of a three year stretch will really take a lot about a franchise.
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And it's so hard, right? Because if you look back in retrospect, it's like, we've talked, I think everybody's talked about this on their pods and stuff, but like... KCP obviously would have been a valuable person for this team to have. Within the logic of the team's construction, it would have worked. But it's not like KCP set the world on fire as a member of the Magic. He has not.
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I can see why they were like, we need to get off these guys. We can't pay guys a little bit out of their prime for past performance. I understand all that, but... Jesus, when you're watching what they put out there, it's like it's unbelievable that they won a title a couple years ago.
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The flip side with the Clippers is they can beat you with just their two best guys, or they can beat you from the margins with Powell. If Batum's going to hit four threes, I don't know what the magic Nick Batum three number is for a victory, but it looked a lot like tonight.
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Yeah, and it seems like the theme of all of these teams seems to be losing out on their core role players or veterans that are looking for a new contract. They miss those guys, whether it's the Warriors, the Bucs, whether it's Denver, and then they wind up regretting it because it's so impossible to find that exact guy, the exact KCP, the exact... name warrior role player.
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I mean, I guess Iggy Buncey Potey retired. I mean, it's the person that holds everything together and does all this little stuff. And I just, I don't even, as someone who cheers for somebody who's not contending, I can't even imagine how difficult it must be. Who's your team? I forgot. You weren't cheering for Toby tonight? I'm cheering for basketball. I'm cheering for the Pistons.
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I have a suggestion for you for the last act of your career. You've done a lot with your career, but I want you to lose all your hair, then grow out a crazy sports writer receding hairline, and become the poet of the Intuit Dome, and just write about Ben Simmons' connection to the wall. You know? You know?
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I think it was probably intentional. I don't think you can have a roster so overly committed to this starting five and this core and just be like, but it's still a one-man show and you guys just stand in the corners. And also, I mean, Brunson missing time over the course of the season.
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I think, tellingly, when he missed some time in this last bit of the regular season, that's when Bridges kind of blossomed a little bit. I mean, I know that Knicks fans have a love-hate relationship with him, but... he needed to be a little bit more featured and a little bit more set up to be a feature player. I got to admit, can we talk a little bit about the Brunson experience? Yeah, let's go.
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I'm so excited to do so. I don't... Don't dislike Jalen Brunson. Yeah.
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If I was a Pistons fan, I would hate Jalen Brunson. Yeah. And I want to like him. It's hard right now. I'm not enjoying this.
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He makes Harden look like Bronco Nagurski.
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The Pistons fans were trying to show him some shame. They were chanting F. Jalen Brunson or F. U. Brunson, and it wasn't really... It obviously kind of fired him up a little bit. He closed really well. I think it's probably his size throws me off a lot because he goes in there like a pinball, really, and he just starts flying around the lane.
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The head snap thing is jarring, I think, to watch visually. Um, I think it's the stuff on the perimeter that bothers me the most, the diving in, like, you know, diving into guys when there's like there, he's being defended outside the three point line and just shoulder dropping, going into them or, you know, flopping down after he's coming down from a shot.
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Cause he thinks somebody is in his landing zone. But, uh,
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When Towns got into it with, who was the piston he got into it with? That was Paul Reed, wasn't it?
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And then they pinched Isaiah Stewart on the bench.
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And he's wearing like a full suit and he's just like, shit, I got to show it out there.
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The funniest part about this game to me was that there were more dads in the crowd than like a California youth soccer match. It was like Bridges was fighting with Tim Hardaway Sr. Rick Brunson was fighting with Cade Cunningham and with Jalen Rose. I was just like, this is an amazing testament to like... It's like, what's going on with the amount of kids in the NBA? That's true.
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He's like Woody Guthrie riding the rails. He's just, yeah, you know, he's just a vagabond of the NBA. I mean, I think that, The problem for the Pistons is that they're relying on Schroeder, Tim Hardaway Jr., and Beasley, although Beasley had an awesome season. Those guys can't be your second options, third options. Cade needs one more guy. I think they're hoping or hoped it was Jaden Ivey.
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I love Jaden Ivey, even though he hasn't quite realized his potential tough injury. I have to ask you guys. Durant?
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Oh, no. No.
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No, come on, man.
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Why not? Yeah. I wanted to know whether or not when you watch the Knicks, Rob, Does this look like a team that can go very far with this style of basketball? This just feels very much like we have now pushed this to the limit of what this team can do under Tibbs and with this roster construction.
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It's just more like it is the guy. It's like the guy in Trainspotting who throws the pint glass over his shoulder and doesn't see where it's going. He's not quite Begbie, but he has like a little bit of like, who started the fight? Yeah, this is weird.
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But he was pissed. I mean, like, do you think... I think the thing is that Brunson's... Whether or not you like watching it, it clearly works because it drives other players nuts. Completely. And, you know, like, I don't really have, like, the rule book in front of me to judge whether or not that was a backcourt violation in the last second there. But he was doing a lot of stuff to just get Durin.
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Durin was going nuts for a while there. Yeah.
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I was trying to, I was asking a couple of people last day. I was like, what is the Rudy original sin against Luca? And I guess he did punch him in the stomach or hit him in the stomach like a long time ago. Yeah. But I always laugh. I was at the game, game one. He's shit talking Rudy the entire game, like with like true hatred in his eyes. And nobody from the T-Wolf stands up for Rudy.
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It is one of those things where it's just like, you know what, man, go ahead. You know, if you want to waste energy telling this guy to go fuck himself, that's fine. So I would definitely put Luca and Rudy up there pretty high team wise.
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Yeah, they were getting in his ass a little bit. And I saw Draymond put up an Instagram story that was like, that's a dirty play. But I think when you go back and watch it, it's really hard to see Dort like, oh, I'm going to tackle John Midair here. He's slipping as Pippen turns around. I would challenge any human being
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That's the funniest thing is you getting really cranky because you're worried one of the Celtics is going to get mortally injured during this.
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It would be funny if after the Pacers get eliminated, you give James Johnson your dad's tickets so that it's just...
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Me?
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Same for you, Rev?
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Bill, did you notice it was the loading up on Ant? Because he said after the game that it felt like a zone and that he has to go watch the tape. But in game one, they were loading up on Ant. And I didn't necessarily think it was zone, but they were definitely cheating onto him. And I thought they were moving the ball really well in game one. The Wolves were...
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Obviously, they had threes coming out of their ears that game, but it didn't feel significantly different on TV watching it. So I was kind of surprised that Ant was like, well, that was a new wrinkle. I hadn't seen that yet. Yeah, I didn't see it at all.
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But meanwhile, home prices on the Davion Peninsula are just... They're shooting up, man. I mean... It's a really competitive market.
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I thought like I agree with Rob like I think Wolves Lakers is the best remaining series and the one that I feel like has the most chapters I don't know how many games it's going to go but after game one I was like holy shit these guys have more athleticism than the Lakers like this is crazy and now I'm a little bit more measured about it.
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After a week, what's the team you're most impressed by? It's got to be the Clippers, I think, right?
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Yeah. You'll be happy to know that folks on Warriors Twitter are doing collages of Emei Udoka coach teams diving at other guys' legs and making dirty plays. So there are watchers on the wall making sure our refs are accountable. Wow.
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You got it though.