Chris Ryan

And there was several moments where...

Whether it was the whole hog cook that sent him home the first time or this particular one where he was so confident that the gelatin was going to make his chicken liver.

Yes, because he's done it before.

Because he's done it before, but probably not in the woods with coolers of ice, which one was left open at a certain point.

And then I think him trying to...

in fact, let's go to the tape on them.

That was wild.

Has never worked in the history.

Nobody's ever done that.

I don't think anybody's ever been like, let's look at the bylaws of Top Chef.

I don't even know if it was really that much of a glide path.

I just think it is the way that they edited the series this year to allow for Last Chance Kitchen to have suspense.

also meant that there was like a three-week liminal space of, is Jen on this show?

Is Seeger on this show?

Well, Justin could have taken Seeger's spot.

Justin could have just been like, yes, I will go instead of Jen.

The Asheville part was fantastic.

The Asheville part made me want to go to Asheville.

And then later... Can we eat there if you want to eat at 4.45 or 10 p.m.?

Yes.