Chris Ryan

It's just thrilling.

It's like a really exciting time to be at the ground floor for this director.

And to see it realized, I mean, I was aware of and had watched some of Backrooms on YouTube, and I was aware that Backrooms is a concept of something that had sort of organically grown out of Creepypasta and Reddit, and that it was in some ways closer to folk art than it is...

a single author statement to see him make something so assured that so perfectly distills some of the liminal horror, some of the sort of modern urban legend or folk horror ideas.

and blow it out on this level.

And just on a personal level, I just find watching this stuff to be like taking a floor buffer to my brain.

And I would honestly watch like nine hours of this.

I've watched nine hours of slow tracking shots through these rooms.

So it was deeply pleasurable.

The movie part of it, like the more traditional conventional stuff, I thought was like a little less...

unique or a little less fully realized, but that didn't wind up diminishing my appreciation for the movie itself.

Yeah, what did you think?

I just think even the concept of like him having a therapist is like incredible.

economical for communicating the interior lives of the two main characters.

That's what I was going to ask.

I've been watching these, Curry Barker, you had a great interview with Curry Barker for Obsession, and his description of using these 3D imaging apps that you can use on your phone to essentially design a set, put...

animated actors in it to do your blocking, film it with a virtual camera, and then cut it so that you can basically, a la Hitchcock, be like, all we're doing is doing exactly what's on this piece of paper today.

Not only is that efficient, but that also allows you to really think through

the rhythm of the movie, the look of the movie, the feel of the movie.

And I know that Parsons is obviously like really, I mean, those early Backrooms videos are essentially animated, aren't they?